Martek drain on battery?

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25 Sep 2015 05:22 #691857 by Lmdgr34
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I have a problem of weak spark, engine will not idle under 1100 rpm. The carbs and everything else have already been taken care of which now leads me to my scenario. When the engine is switched on I am only getting 10.12v at the coils with 12.35v at the battery. In my search of tracing out the problem, I checked all the connections even cleaned up the connectors on the on/off switch. Everything is consistently getting only 10.12v....

When I undo the splice connector and remove the red wire to the martek440k and retest the coils instantly have the same voltage as the battery?!

Do these marteks go bad and become drains on the battery?

Would a dyna s ignition solve my problem?

1976 KZ900
29mm smoothbores, pod filters, 4-1 pipe....and a whole lot of daydreaming

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25 Sep 2015 06:35 #691861 by punisher11b
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If the voltage drops when you start using current that says your battery may be an issue. The potential will most likely read correct with no load on it weather it's good or bad. Although if its going bad the volts will drop once a load is applied. Even just running a headlight. Could be a lot of other things but battery's are easy to have tested and usually for free.

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25 Sep 2015 06:50 #691863 by Lmdgr34
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The battery is good and I'm sorry for the confusion it is with the switch just on and not the engine running.

If at all possible could someone with a dyna s ignition tell me what their voltage is at the coils and the battery with the key switched on, but not running. That would help me narrow it down to the martek considering I've read some posts on them failing but just not in this particular fashion.

Thanks,
Walt

1976 KZ900
29mm smoothbores, pod filters, 4-1 pipe....and a whole lot of daydreaming

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25 Sep 2015 08:03 #691869 by 650ed
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I recommend you first check out your charging system; you should find instructions in the Kawasaki Service Manual. If you are only seeing 12.35v at the battery with the engine running something in the charging system is not working properly. I suppose it's possible the battery itself is at fault, but you should be seeing considerable more voltage at the battery with the engine running. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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25 Sep 2015 08:14 #691870 by Lmdgr34
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650ed,

I do get considerably higher voltage when the bike is running. It has a brand new stator, battery, rectifier/regulator combo. I have purchased a manual and reviewed what to do for a weak spark. I am trying to avoid doing the "Wire Mod" and rectify the problem. Before the bike is even started but with the key switched on it is showing those low volts at the coils and it is over a 2 volt loss between the coil and the battery. With the cdi unplugged from the splice connector that problem goes away.

Thanks,
Walt

1976 KZ900
29mm smoothbores, pod filters, 4-1 pipe....and a whole lot of daydreaming

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25 Sep 2015 08:18 - 25 Sep 2015 08:39 #691872 by KZB2 650
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When I got my new Dyna coils and ign 3 years ago I was getting 12.17 and 12.19 from my two with the key on and not running....W/ fully charged new battery.

I can't remember if I had the pick ups hooked or not though and its tore apart right now........ I see your problem goes away with them un hooked so hopefully more will chime in.

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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25 Sep 2015 08:33 - 25 Sep 2015 08:37 #691877 by LineArtist
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Don't all electronic ignitions draw power when the key is turned?

"I have a problem of weak spark, engine will not idle under 1100 rpm"... have you fixed this?

'79 KZ650B3 (stock)
'79 KZ650B3 (parts bike)
'06 HD 883R
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25 Sep 2015 08:56 #691879 by Lmdgr34
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Line,

I may be an ass but I'm assuming it isn't idling properly because of the weak spark. As previously stated I've taken care of a lot on this bike I feel this is just the last spot of my problem. Carbs professionally done, new charging system, and maybe you're right that they all do draw some power, I just am unsure that it should be drawing over 2 volts. Apparently these martek cdi's were real popular before dyna came along. Which leads be to believe that it may just be junk.

Thanks,
Walt

1976 KZ900
29mm smoothbores, pod filters, 4-1 pipe....and a whole lot of daydreaming

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25 Sep 2015 09:03 #691880 by pete greek1
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Lmdgr34 wrote: 650ed,

I do get considerably higher voltage when the bike is running. It has a brand new stator, battery, rectifier/regulator combo. I have purchased a manual and reviewed what to do for a weak spark. I am trying to avoid doing the "Wire Mod" and rectify the problem. Before the bike is even started but with the key switched on it is showing those low volts at the coils and it is over a 2 volt loss between the coil and the battery. With the cdi unplugged from the splice connector that problem goes away.

Thanks,
Walt

The Igniter is not needed with Dyna ignition & coils & should be un plugged & removed
Pete

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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25 Sep 2015 10:06 #691887 by SWest
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From what I've read, they do take a lot of power. The Dyna S does too but not as much. I have a relay for my coils (4ohm) and if my battery isn't fully charged, it will show low voltage like now. It's been a long hot summer and I need to check the water. This just started happening after this trip. Might be low water in the cells. I'll check what the Dyna S pulls later if someone doesn't beat me to it.
Steve

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25 Sep 2015 13:50 #691908 by Lmdgr34
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OK for sanity sake I plugged it all back together. Started it back up and had it idling around 1k. The volts on the battery read 12.18 and the volts on the coils were 11.45 and 11.43. Normal?

HELP! LOL

1976 KZ900
29mm smoothbores, pod filters, 4-1 pipe....and a whole lot of daydreaming

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25 Sep 2015 14:48 - 25 Sep 2015 14:49 #691912 by 650ed
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No. I still believe you need to take a look in your manual and see what the voltage at the battery should be with the bike idling. 12.18 v is abnormally low for a bike with the engine running even at idle speed. Trust me on this - the manual will provide the information you need. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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