Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

  • GulfKZ
  • GulfKZ's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • User
    Registered
  • Posts: 3
  • Thanks: 0

Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 13:47
#674798
So I purchased a 1980 KZ440 a few months back. Started and ran fine. I had an 80s Japanese bike specialist shop in phoenix overhaul the thing and it was running perfectly. Bad news was they said the starter (which worked) needed rebuild because the seal was bad and leaked oil in. It would also need new brushes because they were covered in oil. bought the rebuild kit and began taking it apart when one of my idiot friends comes by and says hey what ya doing and picks up the unsrewed starter motor. Parts all fall out the bottom. I put it together how it looked before best I could and everything matched up and shut. Problem is it doesnt turn now. Im in over my head and another friend who has rebuilt tons of starters says he cant figure out whats wrong. A new starter on ebay it 550! I love this bike and havent even gotten to ride it once since purchase. Please help! What can i do?
Picture of the bike -
[IMG

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SWest
  • SWest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Sustaining Member
    Registered
  • 10 22 2014
  • Posts: 23375
  • Thanks: 2902

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 15:18
#674824
Pics of the starter. They're not complicated. Do they have used ones? I've been known to take two and make one. In my early twenties I bought two Pontiac's. One was a 67 Le Mans and the other was a Tempest. Again it was the starter and a gummed up carb. The jerk that sold them to me told everyone I would never get one to run. Ha ha ha ha. :lol: Two days later me and my EX showed up in the La Mans. Close your mouth or the flies will get out. :evil:
Where there's a will there's a way. Sometimes Will's not around. :whistle:
Steve

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • GulfKZ
  • GulfKZ's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • User
    Registered
  • Posts: 3
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 15:33
#674825
Hey thanks for the reply! I will snap a few photos tonight after work.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • 650ed
  • 650ed's Avatar
  • Offline
  • User
  • User
    Registered
  • Posts: 15333
  • Thanks: 2833

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 15:39
#674827
If you don't yet have a diagram of the starter here's a link to one. Ed

www.dealercostparts.com/pages/oemparts#/...0-B1-1980/070047C-13
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SWest
  • SWest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Sustaining Member
    Registered
  • 10 22 2014
  • Posts: 23375
  • Thanks: 2902

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 15:45
#674828
What a Guy. B)
Steve

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • GulfKZ
  • GulfKZ's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • User
    Registered
  • Posts: 3
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 16:03
#674834
You guys rock. So I saw that diagram before and I know for a fact I dont have all those washers. Also i may be an idiot but you dont need that clutch assembly attached to bench test right? Cant you touch the wires to the bolt and the ground

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SWest
  • SWest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Sustaining Member
    Registered
  • 10 22 2014
  • Posts: 23375
  • Thanks: 2902

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 16:07
#674837
Should be able to but you'll need some AMPs behind it.
Steve

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • JR
  • JR's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Sustaining Member
    Registered
  • Posts: 2951
  • Thanks: 464

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 16:32 - 01 Jun 2015 16:33
#674844
You can download the complete 440 factory manual here
www.kz400.com/Workshop%20manual%20bilder...Service%20Manual.pdf

Dissassemble and assembly of the starter motor is covered on pages 75 and 76
1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust
Last edit: 01 Jun 2015 16:33 by JR.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SWest
  • SWest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Sustaining Member
    Registered
  • 10 22 2014
  • Posts: 23375
  • Thanks: 2902

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 16:35
#674845
That's why this site is so good. B) Good job. ;)
Steve

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ThatGPzGuy
  • ThatGPzGuy's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Sustaining Member
    Registered
  • More Sparky than Speed Racer
  • Posts: 1494
  • Thanks: 393

Re: Starter Motor - Am I doomed?

01 Jun 2015 17:02
#674847
If you can't figure it out you probably have a local starter/alternator rebuilder near you. For my cars I go there before I'll get a no name rebuild from the parts stores. But really, they are not complicated as long as your brushes are in good shape.
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Moderators: Street Fighter LTD
Powered by Kunena Forum