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09 May 2013 05:18 - 09 May 2013 10:07 #586520 by daveo
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Just put in a new battery, and took it out for a spin. My headlight is brighter, and the voltage reads a lot better, I think. I didn't do any electrical testing on it myself, but judging how well she fired up after the ride, it may be alright.

I shot the SPARK PLUG pics after the ride. Does the color look acceptable on the plug? It seems much more consistent accross the set now, than it did with the old battery. :)

See below for closeup pic replacement.

1982 KZ1100-A2

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09 May 2013 07:51 - 09 May 2013 07:51 #586531 by Old Man Rock
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Resistive plugs for your model, that correct....?

For now, look fine where non soot/carbon on the insulator, strap 50/50 hard to say, carbon on base ring...

Need more than a ride around the block.... Take her for a nice 50-100 mile run then compare...

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1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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09 May 2013 08:03 - 09 May 2013 08:06 #586533 by LarryC
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I fixed your pic for you. Also cut one out and blew it up.

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09 May 2013 08:08 - 09 May 2013 08:11 #586535 by Patton
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Why using R plugs?

R plugs may in this instance be causing weaker (i.e., less complete) combustion and therefore darker plugs.

Would replace plugs with brand new B8ES (non-R) and repeat the plug reading after a nice long test ride.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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09 May 2013 09:36 - 09 May 2013 10:00 #586549 by daveo
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Heres a better closeup pic

:blink: There is no other resistor component in the setup.

Otherwise, a resistor wire set, OR resistor caps would be needed, if I'm not mistaken. I currently prefer using solid-core wires.
If run with no resistance, then what about the poor people's pacemakers or cell-phones? The exhaust setup already makes every obnoxious Harley seem quiet.

Today will be a good day.

1982 KZ1100-A2

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09 May 2013 10:32 #586553 by loudhvx
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daveo wrote: ...

:blink: There is no other resistor component in the setup.

Otherwise, a resistor wire set, OR resistor caps would be needed, if I'm not mistaken. I currently prefer using solid-core wires.
If run with no resistance, then what about the poor people's pacemakers or cell-phones? The exhaust setup already makes every obnoxious Harley seem quiet.

Today will be a good day.


Correct. Your digital volt meter may get whacky with no resistor element as well.

Plugs look ok, if they've been in the bike for some time. Otherwise, could be a tad rich (as OMR's photo guide says), but not too bad.
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09 May 2013 11:03 - 09 May 2013 11:04 #586559 by Jrbrownie00
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I don't want to thread jack but I have a question thats directly related.

I bought new Dyna 7mm Copper Core spark plug wires and B8ES spark plugs. This combination is what's preferred in these bikes right? After reading through a lot of spark plug threads, including this one, I'm beginning to second guess.

I have a an 82 KZ750 LTD

82' kz750 ltd.
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09 May 2013 11:05 #586561 by Old Man Rock
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"There is no other resistor component in the setup. "... No, that isn't correct.

Spark plug wires themselves are designed with resistance/inductive properties! You can have a couple ohms up to a couple thousand ohms pending designs...

This is one of the main reasons a single universal plug wire set (other than lengths & boots) won't work for all vehicles/ignition sets.

If your kawi model does not call for resistive "R" rated plugs, you'd be limiting the voltage/current (Ohms Law) for your ignition spark....

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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09 May 2013 12:42 - 09 May 2013 12:48 #586576 by Patton
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daveo wrote: ...There is no other resistor component in the setup....

R plugs being the only resistor component wasn't noted in the original post, but is indeed an important consideration.

Am thinking most KZ models are produced with resistor spark plug caps as the sole resistor component; and that most if not all KZ models are produced with non-R spark plugs.

Running without any resistor component may cause interference in delicate electronics on a bike.

Z1, KZ900, and most if not all KZ1000 were not factory-fitted with delicate electronics that could be adversely affected by lack of a resistance component.
Plenty of owners run their Z1 and KZ without any resistance component.

An uncertain if or when large Kaw fours became factory fitted with delicate electronics that could be adversely affected by lack of a resistance component.
But the long-standing resistor spark plug cap was likely relied upon as sufficient protection for the delicate electronics.

As is well-known, running without any resistor component may cause interference in audio reception located near the running motorcycle engine.

Am dubious about whether running without any resistor component has any effect on a pacemaker, as mechanics wearing pacemakers regularly work on ignition systems, perform arc welding, cook with microwave ovens, etc, without serious ill effects. Even MRI is now considered safe for many pacemaker patients.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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09 May 2013 14:44 #586590 by loudhvx
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daveo wrote: ...:blink: There is no other resistor component in the setup.

... I currently prefer using solid-core wires.


I think he is saying he is running solid wires, and non-resistor caps, correct? So resistor plugs won't hurt.
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09 May 2013 16:22 #586601 by 650ed
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I wouldn't worry about their pacemaker. Their heart should skip a beat anyhow when they see a beautiful KZ ride by. ;)

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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09 May 2013 20:44 - 09 May 2013 20:46 #586633 by daveo
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Jrbrownie00

Your setup would necessitate using resistor caps...correct? :kiss:

1982 KZ1100-A2

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