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04 Oct 2012 15:54 #552446 by badrhino
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Thanks guys I'll have another crack at it.

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09 Oct 2012 20:45 #553344 by badrhino
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Not that I have one,mine is just wires coming off of it. But why is the wires coming off of the igniter going to the coils called a 6-pin connector when it looks as there are only 4 wires?

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09 Oct 2012 23:28 #553388 by Motor Head
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badrhino wrote: Not that I have one,mine is just wires coming off of it. But why is the wires coming off of the igniter going to the coils called a 6-pin connector when it looks as there are only 4 wires?


Don't know, maybe a Typo? 2 plugs 4 wires each in the diagrams.

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13 Oct 2012 13:46 - 13 Oct 2012 13:50 #553642 by badrhino
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Ok I tested my igniter as per manual and her is what I got.





From top to Bottom:
No Reading or Infinity
No Reading (and there should be one)
700 ohms
710 ohms

And as for the section just below for the male connector for pickup coils are those reading supposed to be 25-45k and 20-40k as stated in the manual because I was not getting those readings. There was another test the checked the pick-up coils and they were only supposed to read at 360-540 ohms and mine were with in spec. see insert below.



Can someone please explain to me the difference in these two test of the pick-up coils?

One says the male end and the other says the female end going to the pick-up coils. The only end that goes to the pick-up coils is the Male end. The Female connection goes to the igniter. :S

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14 Oct 2012 20:59 #553857 by badrhino
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Bump!

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15 Oct 2012 12:34 #553965 by Motor Head
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The difference is one is measuring through the circuit in the ignitor, the other is actually measuring the coils themselves. hence the Male, and Female of the connector. Didn't you sat yours has no connectors, just wires? So The Reading through the ignitor is the Female Connector which would plug into the Male end which comes up from the Pick up coils.

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15 Oct 2012 23:46 #554110 by badrhino
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Yes mine looks like this.








Are the readings I posted good? I wasn't getting any or infinity on the one reading.

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16 Oct 2012 00:10 #554114 by Motor Head
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badrhino wrote: Ok I tested my igniter as per manual and her is what I got.





From top to Bottom:
No Reading or Infinity
No Reading (and there should be one)
700 ohms
710 ohms

And as for the section just below for the male connector for pickup coils are those reading supposed to be 25-45k and 20-40k as stated in the manual because I was not getting those readings. There was another test the checked the pick-up coils and they were only supposed to read at 360-540 ohms and mine were with in spec. see insert below.



Can someone please explain to me the difference in these two test of the pick-up coils?

One says the male end and the other says the female end going to the pick-up coils. The only end that goes to the pick-up coils is the Male end. The Female connection goes to the igniter. :S


Looks to me the Ignitor is open at the trigger circuit.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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16 Oct 2012 01:26 #554123 by badrhino
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How do these get messed up? It was working fine before I switched out a coil.

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16 Oct 2012 10:28 #554172 by Motor Head
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Since it is a frankenZ, I would look at the part # on that Ignitor Box. Then find which bike it fits, double check all the resistance values that should be used with it. The pick up coils resistance and the Ignition Coil primary resistance. It would be wise to check this, then if you find that there are parts miss-matched, correct that, then replace the faulty part, or maybe go with member Loudhvx's HEI Mod. That uses two GM HEI distributor modules.

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17 Oct 2012 02:41 #554288 by badrhino
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Ok, I'll look into that. I know that the igniter looks to be original to the 1980 Kz1000 ltd but the motor (pick-up coils) look original to the J motor. I'm sure the coils are pretty much all the same or from what I have seen on feebay the part numbers are usually the same for most models/years.

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17 Oct 2012 02:43 #554289 by badrhino
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What is the best way to search this site? I put in "Loudhvx's HEI Mod" and either get nothing or get who knows how many pages of stuff. Can't this damn search engine actually find anything?

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