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16 Apr 2012 15:38 #516182 by Mullineaux
Anyone recognize this ignition? was created by Mullineaux
It was a working pull of a '81 kz650 and I'd like it to go on my '77 kz650. I asked one mechanic to install it and he said "you got the wrong one." Looking at the new points he installed it seems like he stripped the screw above the timing marker window and said "Screw it." I guess I'm wondering if anyone's seen this before. The only markings say TEC and Japan. I've done lots of searches and come up with nothing. I'm hoping it's a Dyna S-type ignition and not one that requires a computer black box that I don't have. Anyone know anything about these?

KZ650 ( '77 Engine, '78 frame, 80's ignition, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Pods, lowered [links])
1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser
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16 Apr 2012 16:50 #516202 by gd4now
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It looks like the OEM Kawasaki electric igniter to me. They came stock on the 81 and later kz650s.

1977 KZ650 B1
Pods and Denco header


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16 Apr 2012 17:41 #516212 by Mullineaux
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Hmm, sounds like I need an ignitor box then. Hmm, that project might have to wait a little while. I saw searching the forums that someone put a stock 80's electrical ignition on '78 bike, Hopefully it'd be compatible with a '77 B1 also.

KZ650 ( '77 Engine, '78 frame, 80's ignition, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Pods, lowered [links])
1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser

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16 Apr 2012 17:41 - 21 Feb 2013 15:55 #516213 by martin_csr
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16 Apr 2012 18:26 - 16 Apr 2012 18:28 #516221 by rstnick
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Yes, what you have there is the pick ups (replaces the points) and the mechanical advancer with cam, from a late model 650 or a 750 4 cylinder.
You will need an IC Igniter too.
Ones off '79 to '82 (approx) kz 550, 650, 750 and even the kz1000s should work.
Here are some:
motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R40&_t...z+IC+Igniter&_sacat=

Not the '84 model though, or the Police IC Igniter or the '82 750 twin.

Here's a swap I did some years back from points to factory electronic igniton, first with a pick up plate off a KZ1000, then later with a late model KZ650's:
forums.kz650.info/index.php?topic=2441.0

Rob
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1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R
2005 z750s
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16 Apr 2012 18:41 #516224 by Mullineaux
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Awesome responses, thanks guys, I feel like I'm pointed in the right direction now.

KZ650 ( '77 Engine, '78 frame, 80's ignition, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Pods, lowered [links])
1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser

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16 Apr 2012 19:53 #516230 by loudhvx
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If you can't find the igniter box, you can make one pretty cheaply. The link is in my signature: HEI.

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17 Apr 2012 12:12 - 21 Feb 2013 15:36 #516328 by martin_csr
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17 Apr 2012 17:59 #516371 by Mullineaux
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationJust grabbed this guy:
from a '81 Kawasaki KZ750. With a little luck it'll be here by the weekend and on the bike before Monday! Now I just gotta drill/remove the stuck/stripped screws holding the points in there.

Thanks for the tip on the '81 manuals!

KZ650 ( '77 Engine, '78 frame, 80's ignition, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Pods, lowered [links])
1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser

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26 Apr 2012 01:18 #518141 by Mullineaux
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Just an update. I got the igniter, wired everything up and no spark. After some poking around I discovered that while the battery was at 13.5v I was only getting 10.3 or so at the plugs. I did up the wg coil wiring mod and success! Everything worked and all of it wasn't too difficult. No I just have to pretty it up, clean my carbs, and paint my tank.

KZ650 ( '77 Engine, '78 frame, 80's ignition, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Pods, lowered [links])
1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser

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26 Apr 2012 18:10 #518236 by rstnick
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Good to hear!

Rob
CANADA

Need a key for your Kawasaki? PM me

1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R
2005 z750s

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26 Apr 2012 18:51 #518242 by SPARKY47
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I have an advancer identical to the one Martin_csr has pictured but instead of 1022 mine has 1016 on it.Anyone know the significance of this?



1980 KZ500 B2
Location: Middle England[/b
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