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Lifepo4 battery will this work on an 81 kz1000 ?
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22 Aug 2011 14:45 - 22 Aug 2011 14:48 #470920
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81 KZ1000 LTD
Griffin GA
Lifepo4 battery will this work on an 81 kz1000 ? was created by jydog
]I am litmited on space for a battery since I did a monoshock and I was wondering if this would be a good canidate for my bike. Will it crank my bike with no problem? Anyone use the Sharoi battery on there bike?
www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14A2-BS12.html
I hate the price but the size is right. Or if you kow of another option with close to these same dimensions let me know.
www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14A2-BS12.html
I hate the price but the size is right. Or if you kow of another option with close to these same dimensions let me know.
81 KZ1000 LTD
Griffin GA
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22 Aug 2011 15:03 - 22 Aug 2011 15:06 #470924
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1979 KZ-750 Twin
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I spent a couple of decades designing electronic hardware for the various types of rechargeable batteries: NI-CAD, NI-MH, Lead Acid, and Lithium. What I remember about Lithium is they are not nearly as "forgiving" as lead acid for variations in charge voltage. In other words, a lead acid is tolerant of system voltage varying from 13.5 - 14.5V, Li really need a much tighter control on system voltage or it will under/over charge severely. Both Sony and Sanyo required we give them not worse than 1% tolerance on charge voltage for the parts we made for them.
Lithium batteries were also very restrictive in their operating temp range for getting good performance.
It's possible some miracle discoveries have happened in the last few years in Li technology, but I would not use an Li battery on my bike for primary power for the system. Li does give the best power/weight ratio, and they are using them in new electric vehicles, but IMHO good performance would require a better voltage regulator system than what exists on most bikes (hence I don't think they are a good "drop in" solution). YMMV
Lithium batteries were also very restrictive in their operating temp range for getting good performance.
It's possible some miracle discoveries have happened in the last few years in Li technology, but I would not use an Li battery on my bike for primary power for the system. Li does give the best power/weight ratio, and they are using them in new electric vehicles, but IMHO good performance would require a better voltage regulator system than what exists on most bikes (hence I don't think they are a good "drop in" solution). YMMV
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22 Aug 2011 15:29 - 22 Aug 2011 15:30 #470930
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79 KZ 1075 MKll
79 KZ 1500 MKll dragbike
Gone but not forgotten:
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1 X 74 Z1A
1 X 75 Z1B
Replied by Jack on topic Lifepo4 battery will this work on an 81 kz1000 ?
Lithium Ferrous batteries seem to work well in streetbikes, three friends have put them in this season - one in a Z1 and 2 X ZX14's, all with charging systems. I have 2 set up in a dead loss/no charging 24 volt to start / 12 volt to run system on my dragbike. Powerful little bastards, very fast to recharge with no special charger required- just a warning not to exceed the battery amp hours rate with the charge rate, I just use the 2amp setting.
www.turntechbattery.com
supplied the units we use.
Lithium Polymer that's whole nother story. Special chargers, danger of explosions etc. Dan Rudd at MPS had their new Pro Mod burn up last month when the LiPO batteries exploded due to incorrect charging procedures.
Just my .02, ymmv.
Lithium Polymer that's whole nother story. Special chargers, danger of explosions etc. Dan Rudd at MPS had their new Pro Mod burn up last month when the LiPO batteries exploded due to incorrect charging procedures.
Just my .02, ymmv.
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79 KZ 1500 MKll dragbike
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3 X 73 Z1's
1 X 74 Z1A
1 X 75 Z1B
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22 Aug 2011 15:33 #470934
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81 KZ1000 LTD
Griffin GA
Replied by jydog on topic Lifepo4 battery will this work on an 81 kz1000 ?
Thanks for your input bountyhunter, I would rather go with an AGM battery but I dont know if I can find one small enough with the power to crank 1000cc's. How much is enough cold cranking amps for one of these bikes? What is the minimum? I dont have an amp meter or I would try and see what kind of current we are talking about. Hopefully someone on here has done this before.
I think the recommeded specs are
210 CCA
18 AH
12v
I think these bikes charge at 20A if I read correctly. Is there any difference between the police bikes charging systems and the LTD? I know some police bikes require two batteries and 20 AH
I think the recommeded specs are
210 CCA
18 AH
12v
I think these bikes charge at 20A if I read correctly. Is there any difference between the police bikes charging systems and the LTD? I know some police bikes require two batteries and 20 AH
81 KZ1000 LTD
Griffin GA
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22 Aug 2011 15:36 #470936
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1982 GPZ1100 B2
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GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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16 Sep 2011 09:08 #477224
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81 KZ1000 LTD
Griffin GA
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alienmotion.com/
8 cell works but felt better using the 12 cell. Above company has great prices and real good customer support.
8 cell works but felt better using the 12 cell. Above company has great prices and real good customer support.
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16 Sep 2011 19:00 #477329
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Whoo Whee! That company is a bunch cheaper! Might actually be feasible for me to buy one.
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