Starter relay and coil probs

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16 May 2011 10:21 #451417 by redneck-kz
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Ok I spent 10yrs looking for my 77kz650 have spent a ton of time fixing it up have rode only 4 miles and carbs started spilling fuel fixed that and now hit the start button and all I get is a click in my starter relay. Were do I go from here before I spend the money on new relay and coils

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16 May 2011 10:29 #451420 by Proxy
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Check the connections and then condition of your battery. What is the volotage? If it is down I'd say check your reg/rec. Might not be charging. As for that carb thing make sure you have a inline filter.

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16 May 2011 10:42 #451425 by redneck-kz
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Brand new battery new filter new airbox tubes carb rebuild kit etc...
Ive spent a lot of time making this bike right best of the dest parts but
Im getting to that point as soon as the paint drys I wanna ride

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16 May 2011 10:48 #451426 by 650ed
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Your bike should kickstart easily. If you start it that way you can see how it runs and test the charging system. The starter problem you describe may simply be a bad starter or starter clutch. If so, that should not impact the way the bike runs, so you should be able to ride until you sort out the starter problem. Ed

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16 May 2011 11:06 #451432 by redneck-kz
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I never even thought to kick it lol ive done some modes to it and forgot the kicker was still there ill try it

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16 May 2011 13:57 #451454 by redneck-kz
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Ok got it to kick over I feel like an idiot forgetting about kicking it but anyways now any tips to help with the masive amount of kicking to get it to start to me its my point might need adjusted the cam timing was set dead on after many attempts but had it set accurding to an older post on kzr also is there any differances between a 77 and 80 650?

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16 May 2011 18:13 #451512 by 650ed
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There are lots of differences betrween the 77 and 80 KZ650 including charging system and fuel system. When you start the bike cold be sure to give it full choke and do not touch the throttle, otherwise you'll have a heart attack before it starts :laugh: Assuming the carbs are clean, which you should be able to tell by how well it idles and runs once started, I would suggest you check and replace the points if that hasn't been done recently. Pitted or mis-adjusted points can make starting difficult. There is no actual adjustment to cam timing other than adjusting the cam chain tensioner. Ed

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16 May 2011 18:50 #451522 by redneck-kz
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Ok I cant seem to get it timed im getting one hell of a spark off the points but cant seem to time it I get #1 top dead center and the
Point is time topdaed but cant seem to advance to f mark

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16 May 2011 18:59 #451527 by redneck-kz
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Ive found my title and it says my bike is an 80 my frame say 80 but vin on casing came to a 77 but afyer looking its an 80 the casing is a replacement from bone yard found the recipt in all the paperwork so if ive been setting it up for a 77 have I been going the wrong way

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16 May 2011 19:07 #451528 by Patton
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redneck-kz wrote: Ok I cant seem to get it timed im getting one hell of a spark off the points but cant seem to time it I get #1 top dead center and the
Point is time topdaed but cant seem to advance to f mark


:unsure: Perhaps wires from points/pickups to coils are reversed.

When setting ignition timing, use only the F mark, and forget the T mark.

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16 May 2011 20:09 - 16 May 2011 20:21 #451548 by 650ed
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If you can, post a picture of the left side of your engine showing the dynamo cover and we can tell you for sure if it's a '77. Take a look at the pics below; notice the '77 dynamo cover has 3 screws near the word Kawasaki. Later models did not have these because their dynamos were very different. Ed

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17 May 2011 10:13 #451690 by redneck-kz
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I have never had this many probs building a bike but I guess being told the wrong year would prob so that
I dont recall thrwe screws but ill post pics here soon

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