Spark Plugs and Wires

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26 Aug 2010 13:36 #393997 by kz750saskatoon
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I think this question is quite basic but I wanted to make sure I had things correct. I am going to switch out the spark plug wires on my bike.

The manual for my bike specifies NGK BR8ES plugs. However, the caps I am looking to buy are NGK LB05EP. These caps have resistors in them and have a value of 5kOhm. I should use B8ES plugs instead of the BR8ES, correct? Also, my local shop lists 7mm wire. I assume that would be fine?

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26 Aug 2010 13:53 - 26 Aug 2010 13:54 #394004 by otakar
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I do not use resistor caps or resistor plugs on my daily rider GPz1100. If you don't plan on mounting a radio than you don't require them. You will have a much better spark without resistors. Some people claim that the RF noise can interfere with the IC box but I have had no problems in the last three years. 7mm or 8mm is what you want. Solid core (non suppression) cables not carbon core (suppresion).

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26 Aug 2010 14:26 #394011 by steell
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Couple of points you might want to consider.

#1 You're going to piss off anyone listening to AM radio within a couple blocks of you, and especially that wacko that's just lost his job and listening to Glenn Beck till "you" wiped it out, while sitting right next to him at a stop light.

#2 You're also going to piss off any ham trying to communicate on HF within a quarter mile (or more) of you.

#3 It's called RF pollution.

And there is absolutely no reason to do so. Running a proper resister ignition system will have no effect on performance.

Of course you'll also be violating Federal Regulations, but if you don't care what you're doing to everyone else, I doubt you'll care about violating some Federal Regs.

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26 Aug 2010 14:30 - 26 Aug 2010 14:31 #394013 by Motor Head
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Glad to here I'm not the only one with the Laws in mind, I'll have to agree with steell on this one.

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26 Aug 2010 14:52 - 26 Aug 2010 15:18 #394018 by kz750saskatoon
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steell, was that directed at me or otakar? I'm pretty sure it was otakar but I would just like to make sure.

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26 Aug 2010 15:21 - 26 Aug 2010 15:23 #394020 by otakar
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highly likely at me. As far as the Feds are concerned, F*** Them. I doubt that very many people will be listening to AM I even did tests with a vintage RC system on AM and unless I put the transmitter or receiver within 3' of the spark plugs there was no interference. I tested both on 27mHZ 40mHZ 50mHZ 72mHZ and 76mHZ. no affect on any of tham once out of the 3-4' range. But I am also the one that rides around with a cell phone jammer turned on, that I bought in China, (Actually two of them). I know that I really piss of the talkers when I get within 10 yards of them (that is how far it works):angry: I have absolutely no apologies for that one. ;)

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78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
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81 Scratch built GPz1150R
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26 Aug 2010 15:44 #394026 by kz750saskatoon
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So if I am willing to put the resistor in the system, am I right in that you don't want a resistor in the plug and the cap? Just one or the other?

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26 Aug 2010 15:51 #394028 by MFolks
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I'd think one or the other, not both, being two resistors in the circuit would(I think) lower the spark energy.

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26 Aug 2010 16:33 - 26 Aug 2010 16:37 #394035 by otakar
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MFolks wrote:

I'd think one or the other, not both, being two resistors in the circuit would(I think) lower the spark energy.


2X

You can either;
1)use resistor caps with standard plugs and solid wires.
2)resistor plugs solid wires and silicone caps.
3)suppression wires with standard plugs and silicone caps.

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76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
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78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
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81 Scratch built GPz1150R
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26 Aug 2010 16:40 #394040 by 650ed
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steell wrote:

Couple of points you might want to consider.

.... Of course you'll also be violating Federal Regulations, but if you don't care what you're doing to everyone else, I doubt you'll care about violating some Federal Regs.


Please don't get pissed; I'm not calling you a liar, but I doubt there is such a federal regulation. If there was why would the feds allow the sale and purchase of non-resistor plugs? I use them every time as called for in my factory manual and have had zero problems buying or using them. Please give your source. Peace Ed

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26 Aug 2010 18:55 #394087 by Patton
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kz750saskatoon wrote:

...am going to switch out the spark plug wires on my bike. The manual for my bike specifies NGK BR8ES plugs.


The manual for my bike specifies NGK BR8ES plugs --- If correct, does the manual give a reason?

I run and would recommend Dyna solid core plug wires from Z1E (come with caps already attached) and NGK B8ES (non-resistor plugs).

The R in NGK BR8ES means "Resistor."

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26 Aug 2010 19:07 - 26 Aug 2010 19:17 #394091 by Saki Jockey
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American bikes were spec'd with out resistor. Canadian and other markets were spec'd with (Thanks to our HAM Op's & there need to protect the air waves {rf pollution}). Both Canuck and US bikes were spec'd with 5 kohm resistor caps through the early / mid 80s... probably earlier as well. We Canucks did get the good carbs though, and no smog pumps / EGR stuff till the mid 80s. I personally find a performance gain running without the resistor, especially with a ND plug. However, I reserve them for off-road applications.

Run the 5 kohm cap and resistor plug Sask, the difference is VERY minor. The Wired George relay setup will net you much greater gains.

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