Need help to ID what I have
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Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 12:17
I have posted in a couple of sections about issues I am having with this project bike I bought. I am comming to believe that this bike was put together from who know's what. Any way it should still run. I am having doubts about diognosing the problems because nothing makes sence as to what should be there according to any schematic i look at.
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kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=3&id=366237
What I would like is if the forum could help ID what I have as far as electrical ignition components because I do not believe they belong to this exact model.
The bike appers to be a 79' LTD 1000 B3 according to the vin. Has manufacure date of 03/79.
Ignitor is a fuji type 21119-1041
coils are Tec ZC0006-TR12V
Did not get a number fron the P/U coils
Ballast resistor no numbers and looks nothing like what I have seen as a replacement nor is it wired as any schematic so please refer to the photo and tell me if indeed this is or is not a ballast resistor.
Please lets start with this.
If you want to read further about the problem
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=3&id=366237
What I would like is if the forum could help ID what I have as far as electrical ignition components because I do not believe they belong to this exact model.
The bike appers to be a 79' LTD 1000 B3 according to the vin. Has manufacure date of 03/79.
Ignitor is a fuji type 21119-1041
coils are Tec ZC0006-TR12V
Did not get a number fron the P/U coils
Ballast resistor no numbers and looks nothing like what I have seen as a replacement nor is it wired as any schematic so please refer to the photo and tell me if indeed this is or is not a ballast resistor.
Please lets start with this.
When in doubt upshift
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
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89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 12:18 - 12 May 2010 12:46
Ballast? This is mounted to the valve cover in a rubber boot and tang. Not on the batt box as shown.
When in doubt upshift
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 12:19
When in doubt upshift
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 12:41 - 12 May 2010 13:05
Cigarette38 wrote:
Nope, that's your 'brake light failure switch', it's a small circuit that's supposed to turn on a warning light in your gauges if your stop light bulb blows, nothing to do with ignition.
Pardon me if you already know, but it should sit next to your starter relay under the left side cover, at least it does on the 650s.
Nope, that's your 'brake light failure switch', it's a small circuit that's supposed to turn on a warning light in your gauges if your stop light bulb blows, nothing to do with ignition.
Pardon me if you already know, but it should sit next to your starter relay under the left side cover, at least it does on the 650s.
77 KZ 650 B1, 82 GPz 1100 B2.
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 12:49
Ok So that means there is no ballast resistor on the bike. Nor do I see any provisions for one.
When in doubt upshift
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 13:06
The igniter you have was used on 1981 and later KZ1000 and KZ1100 so if you do in fact have a 1979 engine a later system has been fitted which would be rare to see.
321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 13:11 - 12 May 2010 13:13
If I recall correctly the Tec ZC0006-TR12V are low-ohm coils meant for electronic ignition, so they should be the right ones for your setup. They should measure 1.8 - some 2.8 Ohms on the primary side. And no, there shouldn't be a ballast resistor.
77 KZ 650 B1, 82 GPz 1100 B2.
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 13:52
Yes the coils measure 2.8 ohms on the primary side and 11,460 on the sec.
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88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 13:55
RonKZ650 wrote:
I am assuming due to the electronic ignition I have a MKII motor. Is there any way to tell what year motor I actually have?
The igniter you have was used on 1981 and later KZ1000 and KZ1100 so if you do in fact have a 1979 engine a later system has been fitted which would be rare to see.
I am assuming due to the electronic ignition I have a MKII motor. Is there any way to tell what year motor I actually have?
When in doubt upshift
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 14:05 - 12 May 2010 14:07
There should be a motor number stamped into the right side of the top case right above the clutch cover - post the number here or go to
Zedder.com
to check (scroll down to find 1000 cc).
77 KZ 650 B1, 82 GPz 1100 B2.
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 15:21
Engine number is KZT00AE087955 looks like it's the correct motor for the chassis. Would like to know if this is the large or small pin motor "crankshaft".
When in doubt upshift
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
88-95updated GSXR750R
92-06updated GSXR7/12
72' Kawi H2 x2 both blue
79 KZ1000
89 CBR600
02 YZ250
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Re: Need help to ID what I have
12 May 2010 15:30
This article might help:
www.aperaceparts.com/tech/techkz1000.html
www.aperaceparts.com/tech/techkz1000.html
1982 GPZ1100 B2
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