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14 Jan 2010 19:27 #342924
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1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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After tearing the bike apart and building the engine up I rode last season without the starter wired up (i just kick started it).I wired it up this afteoon, but the starter woudnt turn. i took the starter out and it worked itermitently without the load and wouldnt work unless the gear on the stater motor was pointed at the ground....Bad/ worn bushings????. I hooked a positive to the bolt on the starter and a negative to the body where the mounting bolts go through and it would spin faster, but i could stop the gear on the starter motor with my hand. This seems too weak to turn my engine over.....am i wrong (too strong!! lol).
If i need a new starter motor does anyone have one? what years/bikes can i get one from?
thank you,
-patrick-
If i need a new starter motor does anyone have one? what years/bikes can i get one from?
thank you,
-patrick-
1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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14 Jan 2010 20:37 #342934
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1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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Try these websites for rebuilding information:
www.mawonline.com/newsite/rick_s_motorsp...-starter_brushes.htm
www.cyclewareables.com/pages/street_star...kits/startmtrkit.htm
www.psep.biz/store/mitsuba_starter_motors_page_2.htm
I'd think unless the motor has excessively worn commutator(the part the brushes rub against), it can be rebuilt.
www.mawonline.com/newsite/rick_s_motorsp...-starter_brushes.htm
www.cyclewareables.com/pages/street_star...kits/startmtrkit.htm
www.psep.biz/store/mitsuba_starter_motors_page_2.htm
I'd think unless the motor has excessively worn commutator(the part the brushes rub against), it can be rebuilt.
1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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14 Jan 2010 20:47 #342935
by pburnhamb
1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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Thanks, I took it apart and the 4coils i think thats what they are anyway, whatever they were wapped in has dissintigrated and now the copper coils are exposed to the sides of the cover and to themselves (each wrap had some insulaion between it and the next) no sure if that matters, but i bet it does or it wouldnt have been there in the first place. I dont think i can take the coils apart and rewrap them without dammaging/bending them too much, not to mention i wouldnt know what to wrap them with..... The brushes to look quite worn too, but i think im better off with a different one ive seen rebuilt ones for $150 but im out of work till spring so funds are low....
1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
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14 Jan 2010 21:39 #342944
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1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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Take your starter motor to the local electrical motor rebuilding shop and see what they say. It should not be difficult for them to tell you one way or the other about the cost of re-doing the insulation.
1982 GPZ1100 B2
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15 Jan 2010 08:45 #342967
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1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
Replied by bill_wilcox100 on topic Kz650 starter
pburnhamb, if you decide to replace the Starter Motor, I have read here somewhere that there is a Honda Starter Motor which is a form and fit replacement and that it has a greater cranking capacity.
Can we have before and after pics.
Let us know how it works out.
Best of success.
Bill
Can we have before and after pics.
Let us know how it works out.
Best of success.
Bill
1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
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15 Jan 2010 09:31 #342973
by pburnhamb
1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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Before and after pics ey? ....... Well u prob know what it looks like so i'll try to get some after pics up here this afternoon! Yeah, i was hoping the one on my 77'CB750k would fit, i looked on bike bandit and they are quite different, too bad. If anyone has a clue what Honda bike or others that the starter motor is the same as a 78 kz650 that would be big help, that way maybe i can find one at a boneyard. I'll try taking it to the rebuild shop on tuesday since they wont be open till then. all help/ideas welcome. thanks guys
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1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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15 Jan 2010 13:42 #342989
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1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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15 Jan 2010 13:45 #342990
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1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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grrrr gimme a wrench not a computer!!!
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15 Jan 2010 13:52 #342991
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1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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15 Jan 2010 14:01 #342993
by pburnhamb
1978 kz650b (810, 750 head)
1976 kz900
1977 xs650
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15 Jan 2010 16:31 #343015
by bill_wilcox100
1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
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Congrats on the pic posting... I felt your pain there. :ohmy: :laugh:
Best of success.
Bill
Best of success.
Bill
1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
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