three hot wires in the starter button?????

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14 Dec 2009 19:33 #339020 by ready2ryde1985
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I was replacing the clutch cable and putting back on my carbs and wanted to here it turn over . pushed the button and nothin . asked my step father to help me trubble shoot the problem and we came up with a bad silnoid . no big deal went to the shop and they no longer make mine so i purchesed one for a kz 1000 . put the wires together and noticed the wire ends "could only be one way and compared to the origanal that was the wrong way" so i switched them still nothin so i tore the starter button apart the key activates the lights and makes three wires in the switch hot but this is where im lost ! i would think there would be mabe 2 of the 4 hot then when you push the button mabe 3 hot idk???????? ive been scratchen my head for days it used to turn over fine!!!

batt has charge
conections are tight
in neutral
the clutch sensor is un plugged
any help welcome will post pics if needed
will have to be done in the day light

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14 Dec 2009 19:43 - 14 Dec 2009 19:46 #339025 by TeK9iNe
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Electrical is fun :laugh: :blink: Hope this helps!

Good luck.

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14 Dec 2009 19:43 #339026 by Patton
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Is the Off-Run-Off switch in RUN position? :unsure:

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14 Dec 2009 19:46 #339027 by ready2ryde1985
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if in the run all three are hot and if off all three are hot

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14 Dec 2009 19:59 #339035 by Patton
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Was thinking maybe the Off-Run-Off switch had been inadvertently clicked to the Off position.

My bikes won't crank over (i.e., electric starter motor doesn't engage) unless the Off-Run-Off switch is in the Run position.

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14 Dec 2009 20:01 #339036 by ready2ryde1985
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:( im lost my button wont go in if its in the off position but when in the on position nothin thanks tho

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14 Dec 2009 20:26 #339049 by Patton
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Must be a different switch setup.

Here's the oem 1976 KZ900 right-hand switch gear.

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14 Dec 2009 20:34 #339051 by ready2ryde1985
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ya my kz 700 has the same off on off but that switch is the start button:silly: this is driven me crasy

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15 Dec 2009 16:02 #339152 by TeK9iNe
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Make sure all the proper connectors throughout the wiring harness are all plugged in, and in thier correct positions.

Many of the circuits are intermixed and require continuity throughout the entire system for everything to work OK.

Or just jump the solenoid with a wire and fire it up!
The starter just has to have its primary wire connected to the battery positive (via whatever) for the starter to spin.

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15 Dec 2009 16:14 #339155 by keith1
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ready2ryde1985 wrote:

I was replacing the clutch cable and putting back on my carbs and wanted to here it turn over . pushed the button and nothin . asked my step father to help me trubble shoot the problem and we came up with a bad silnoid . no big deal went to the shop and they no longer make mine so i purchesed one for a kz 1000 . put the wires together and noticed the wire ends "could only be one way and compared to the origanal that was the wrong way" so i switched them still nothin so i tore the starter button apart the key activates the lights and makes three wires in the switch hot but this is where im lost ! i would think there would be mabe 2 of the 4 hot then when you push the button mabe 3 hot idk???????? ive been scratchen my head for days it used to turn over fine!!!

batt has charge
conections are tight
in neutral
the clutch sensor is un plugged
any help welcome will post pics if needed
will have to be done in the day light




was the clutch sensor unplugged before?

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15 Dec 2009 16:58 #339166 by ready2ryde1985
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was the clutch sensor unpluged before? no it was pluged in. ok so i tried to jump it useing a jumper "aka screwdriver" and the bat was weak so i filled it to the proper seting and trickled it . im tempted to take it to the dealer but my wallet cant take a beating like that !! I do not want to unwrap all the wires but i guess thats what im goin to have to do. i just dont know even where to start ?

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30 Dec 2009 15:17 #341240 by ready2ryde1985
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pic of the switch in question
do these go bad?

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