Petcock upgrade Neccessary

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Petcock upgrade Neccessary

29 Apr 2025 16:43
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I was doing quite a bit of reading through the forum and could not find a clear answer.

At what point does a factory petcock not flow enough? I am moving to a set of RS36 carbs and would like to get my ducks in a row before installing.


1200cc + ?
1327cc +?
120 hp +?
130 hp?
Mile long runs wide open?


Is there a standard benchmark or indicator that you would use to decide when an upgraded petcock is needed?


 
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Re: Petcock upgrade Neccessary

01 May 2025 14:28
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Or another bit of data, does anyone know of any charts that reference how much fuel a kz can consume at wot ?

Going to be wide open, winding out the rpms for 30 seconds plus every run.
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Re: Petcock upgrade Neccessary

01 May 2025 15:20
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Fit a Pingle.
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Re: Petcock upgrade Neccessary

01 May 2025 21:45
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I agree, fit a Pingle with single outlet then uses their filter with one inlet and two outlets to each bank.
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Re: Petcock upgrade Neccessary

02 May 2025 08:45 - 02 May 2025 09:23
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A single outlet Pingel with 5/16" ID lines, Emgo sintered brass filter, and "Y" fitting is what I am using for my 1200 street engine (VM33 Smooth bores) I am shooting for 115-120 HP at the wheel.

My 1327 drag engine (16:1 comp) is using a dual outlet with 5/16" lines to feed 40mm Lectrons. Most guys run RS40's on 1327 to 1428 for street engines, 38's if you have a small valve head (37/31) I am running 40 Lectrons because that's all I could find used at the time, waited for 4 years for some 38's that never appeared. That engine is pretty tame so maybe 140-145 HP to a 7" slick.

I have some RS34's and the fuel tees fit 5/16" line, those tees only have one part number in the Mikuni catalog so even RS40's use a 5/16" line, the tee ID is probably 1/4" (never measured it)



The internal fuel passages are the limiting factor for fuel flow, that and the needle valve assembly size. I have never see a fuel flow consumption chart at WOT as I don't think too many motorcycle engine builders are worried about it.

If I was running a 1327-1428cc street engine with RS40's I would run a dual outlet Pingel with a filter on each line feeding the carbs. With two lines you should never run out of fuel flow.
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Re: Petcock upgrade Neccessary

05 May 2025 13:55
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Fantastic,

Thank you all. 

Pingel will get my money this afternoon! 
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