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Microsquirt EFI 17 Sep 2022 12:29 #874013

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I am attempting to build a set of maps for my 1980 KZ1000G restomod in TunerStudio software for my Microsquirt ECU. I have completely rebuilt every system on the bike and got it running on Mikuni VM29 carbs. I then designed and built an EFI system from various bits, but am new to programming an ECU. I am looking for a set of working maps for a similar engine that I can study and use to modify those created by the TunerStudio software. I understand that I will need to get it sorted out on a dyno (as soon as I can find one who can use this software), I am just looking for a set of maps to use as information on the ranges for a similar running engine and use these to scale the autogenerated TS maps back as they are a bit far off. Is this something that anyone can provide? I attached a few pics to show my project, before and after EFI. Thanks in advance. Bill
 
Current
1980 KZ 1000G - 1075 forged, '84 GPz cams & ITB, Cavanaugh head, MS3 Pro Mini ECU, (orig. w/29 SBs), etc.
1979 KZ1000 Mk II (in pcs)
1978 KZ1000 A2 (in pcs)
2009 HD Night Train
2007 HD XL 1200 Low
Past
1980 KZ1000 G
1980 BMW R100RS
1972 BMW R75/5
1978 KZ1000 A2A
1973 HD XLCH
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Microsquirt EFI 17 Sep 2022 12:52 #874014

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Can't help with the maps but what a great looking bike
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Microsquirt EFI 17 Sep 2022 12:55 #874015

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I can't help you with tuning, but I am very curious about your project.  Can you give us details of how you did the conversion?  What throttle bodies did you use?  What are all the other pieces you had to add to the bike?  

As for tuning, have you asked for tuning maps on the megasquirt/microquirt forums?  I'm assuming there are plenty of example out there.  They may even scale pretty well to your application, assuming the injector sizes scale with engine size. 

I'm surprised that the software doesn't have an auto-tune feature that would help you to push the default map closer to correct.  
'78 Z1-R in blue , '78 Z1-R in black, '78 Z1-R in pieces
My dad's '74 Z1
'00 ZRX1100
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Microsquirt EFI 17 Sep 2022 13:12 #874017

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Your bike is looking great and it´s build with a lot of love to the details. Want to see some more pics in the daylight instead of your dark garage. May i ask, how do you install the oil pressure gauge and what kind of EFI throttle body did you use?

 
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Microsquirt EFI 17 Sep 2022 15:28 #874019

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 how do you install the oil pressure gauge 
I was guessing that's a fuel pressure gauge?
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Microsquirt EFI 18 Sep 2022 09:21 #874057

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I have a similar setup but do not have it running yet so no maps (my bike is a 750 so would be slightly different anyways)
But I have done some homework and there was a guy I found on You Tube who was doing some distance tuning on a guys sand rail that was running a ZX1100 motor. Go onto You Tube and search "Microsquirt Motorcycle" and all kinds of stuff pops up.
Megasquirt also has there own tuning associated channel on there with all kinds of training videos on how to set up maps.
TunerStudio also has a self learning function where you can just drive away and it will adjust the maps to be more optimal (this assumes you plug in all the correct variables for you motor combination) but the ECU needs to be plugged into laptop/tablet/phone with software running.

Here is that link :


 
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Microsquirt EFI 19 Sep 2022 11:21 #874114

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Here are some of the pieces. One day, I need to make a full list (with costs. Gulp...)
  • 1075cc forged pistons, 10.5:1 (Joe Hooper, Pit Stop Performance)
  • Welded crank (Pearson Racing)
  • APE studs (cylinders and case)
  • Timeserts in cam hold down holes (with custom studs)
  • Back cut transmission gears (Pearson Racing)
  • Ported and polished Mk II EFI head, oversized stainless valves (direct inject ports plugged, cam supports rounded off like early design heads)
  • 1984 Kawasaki GPZ 1100 ITB
  • Bosch EV14 #0280185013 Injectors
  • 1984 GPZ 1100 cams (Larry Cavanaugh)
  • Unusual single rib cam cover, clearanced for lobes
  • Microsquirt ECU
  • Trigger wheel - 12-1 custom machined, my design
  • Crank sensor - RLC594-ND VR Sensor w/Red Lion RLC207-ND in line VR amplifier
  • TPS - Raceworks Eurosensor TPS500, contactless, dual rotation
  • Coils - Dynatek green
  • Bosch ignitor
  • Map sensors - GM 1 BAR
  • O2 - Innovate 3844 MTX-L, e/LSU 4.9 sensor
  • Fuel pump, Walbro inline
  • Pressure regulator and gauge
  • Fuel tank quick disconnects
  • Beaded hard aluminum fuel lines (me)
  • Fuel filters, before and after pump
  • Mac 4:2:1 header with low restriction baffle in Kerker meg
  • Pod air cleaners (generic)
  • Stainless caliper pistons (HVC Cycle)
  • Drilled, Blanchard ground LTD solid dual rotors (Truedisk, Tom Tokarz)
  • New Mk II fork tubes (Forking by Frank)
  • Suzuki swing arm (GX)
  • 18” KZ police bike rear wheel w/1977 LTD caliper and rotor
  • Polished stainless 4:1 and black Mac 4:2:1 headers
  • Z1 tank and side covers (Z1 Parts)
  • Hydraulic lines and fittings (Venhill USA)
  • Hydraulic clutch (Falk Stumm, Z-Stammtisch Bremen, Germany, slave cylinder; McMaster Carr, stainless push rod)
  • AirTech Dunstall quarter fairing
  • Bosch H4 w/dual HID
  • Bosch dual horns
  • Polished stainless fasteners everywhere
  • Lots of bits from various suppliers (Z1 Parts, Z1 Enterprises, McMaster Carr, etc.)
Current
1980 KZ 1000G - 1075 forged, '84 GPz cams & ITB, Cavanaugh head, MS3 Pro Mini ECU, (orig. w/29 SBs), etc.
1979 KZ1000 Mk II (in pcs)
1978 KZ1000 A2 (in pcs)
2009 HD Night Train
2007 HD XL 1200 Low
Past
1980 KZ1000 G
1980 BMW R100RS
1972 BMW R75/5
1978 KZ1000 A2A
1973 HD XLCH
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Microsquirt EFI 19 Sep 2022 11:27 #874115

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That's a fuel pressure gauge. It's on the side of the regulator. The ITB is from an '84 GPZ. See the (mostly) full list above in this string.

Your bike is looking great and it´s build with a lot of love to the details. Want to see some more pics in the daylight instead of your dark garage. May i ask, how do you install the oil pressure gauge and what kind of EFI throttle body did you use?

 
Current
1980 KZ 1000G - 1075 forged, '84 GPz cams & ITB, Cavanaugh head, MS3 Pro Mini ECU, (orig. w/29 SBs), etc.
1979 KZ1000 Mk II (in pcs)
1978 KZ1000 A2 (in pcs)
2009 HD Night Train
2007 HD XL 1200 Low
Past
1980 KZ1000 G
1980 BMW R100RS
1972 BMW R75/5
1978 KZ1000 A2A
1973 HD XLCH

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Microsquirt EFI 19 Sep 2022 11:29 #874116

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I can't help you with tuning, but I am very curious about your project.  Can you give us details of how you did the conversion?  What throttle bodies did you use?  What are all the other pieces you had to add to the bike?  

As for tuning, have you asked for tuning maps on the megasquirt/microquirt forums?  I'm assuming there are plenty of example out there.  They may even scale pretty well to your application, assuming the injector sizes scale with engine size. 

I'm surprised that the software doesn't have an auto-tune feature that would help you to push the default map closer to correct.  
I posted a mostly full list in this string above. Hope this helps.
Current
1980 KZ 1000G - 1075 forged, '84 GPz cams & ITB, Cavanaugh head, MS3 Pro Mini ECU, (orig. w/29 SBs), etc.
1979 KZ1000 Mk II (in pcs)
1978 KZ1000 A2 (in pcs)
2009 HD Night Train
2007 HD XL 1200 Low
Past
1980 KZ1000 G
1980 BMW R100RS
1972 BMW R75/5
1978 KZ1000 A2A
1973 HD XLCH

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Microsquirt EFI 19 Sep 2022 11:30 #874117

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 how do you install the oil pressure gauge 
I was guessing that's a fuel pressure gauge?
Yep
Current
1980 KZ 1000G - 1075 forged, '84 GPz cams & ITB, Cavanaugh head, MS3 Pro Mini ECU, (orig. w/29 SBs), etc.
1979 KZ1000 Mk II (in pcs)
1978 KZ1000 A2 (in pcs)
2009 HD Night Train
2007 HD XL 1200 Low
Past
1980 KZ1000 G
1980 BMW R100RS
1972 BMW R75/5
1978 KZ1000 A2A
1973 HD XLCH

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Microsquirt EFI 28 Sep 2022 19:16 #874782

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Did those YouTube videos help at all?

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Microsquirt EFI 28 Sep 2022 20:01 #874783

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I’ve seen most of the TS how to videos out there. Was looking for maps of a similar system to study. No luck so far. But thank you for your interest and follow up.
Current
1980 KZ 1000G - 1075 forged, '84 GPz cams & ITB, Cavanaugh head, MS3 Pro Mini ECU, (orig. w/29 SBs), etc.
1979 KZ1000 Mk II (in pcs)
1978 KZ1000 A2 (in pcs)
2009 HD Night Train
2007 HD XL 1200 Low
Past
1980 KZ1000 G
1980 BMW R100RS
1972 BMW R75/5
1978 KZ1000 A2A
1973 HD XLCH

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