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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 11 Dec 2020 16:48 #839815

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The part numbers are different between the A and B series 1000 carbs. Does anyone know why? As my next carb project I'm considering the carbs linked below. The closest match I can make is the 1979 KZ1000 B3 carbs which are unique according to the fishe on Partzilla.

Do the B series LTD carbs use VM26's instead of the later A series bikes that used 28's?

www.partzilla.com/catalog/kawasaki/motor...retor-assy-kz1000-b3


This ebay listing states KZ650 but the bodies don't have the 650 ribs so I'm assuming they are 1000 carbs.

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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 11 Dec 2020 17:21 #839818

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They are 26mm pumpers.

AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL MIKUNI CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-





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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 11 Dec 2020 17:29 #839820

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The only thing I can verify is the B1, B2, and B3 1000 Kz came with VM 26 SS carbs. The 1980-B4 came with the VM28 SSmm carbs with accelerator pump. My Eyes see the above posted carburetors as version 26. Compare the included photos of the bore proximity of the pilot air intake orifice

EDIT, I think that is the enrichment air jet.
VM26


VM28
1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 11 Dec 2020 18:20 #839829

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the VM26 and VM28 carbs use the same carb boots? The PN's seem to be the same. Anyway, the outlet flange thickness seems thinner on the 28's, and the carbs linked earlier have thick flanges so I agree they look like 26's. Makes sense; the LTD bikes are cruisers compared to the more performance oriented STD bikes, so it stands to reason that they would use smaller carbs.

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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 11 Dec 2020 18:27 #839831

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Yes the OD of the exit side spigots are the same. So the larger bore will reduce the thickness of the spigot wall.
1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 11 Dec 2020 18:34 #839835

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VM26SS carbs were used on all 900/1000 models from 1976 to 1979 except the Z1R (1978) and the A4. Over that time frame the internals were downsized to improve fuel emissions, particularly at idle. By 1978 they were so lean that the bikes had issues from a standing start. The pumper version was introduced to improve takeoff in mid 1978. Matt can chime in on whether they used it in 1979 on the LTD. In 1979 they upped the size to 28 mm with a pump and used it for the A4 and all 1980 models except the Z1R.

Yes, the boots are the same, which means the 26 mm carbs have thicker outlets.
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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 11 Dec 2020 18:41 #839838

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The '79 B3 had VM26SS with pump. I confirmed this with the LTD supplement service manual.
1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 12 Dec 2020 19:09 #839888

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The 1979 KZ1000A3, the standard MKII used the 28mm and also the 1979-1980 KZ1000E1, E2 shaft drive. The only 79 that didn't have the 28mm was the LTD. Not sure why, but the 1979 LTD was also the last KZ1000 to use points ignition after the rest had gone electronic. I always figured they were using left over parts for the less desirable model, that seemed desirable to guys that were more or less Harley riders, but desired a better motorcycle in reliability.
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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 13 Dec 2020 06:13 #839900

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The b3 carburetors are almost untunable. I have 2 sets. Stay away from them.
Kz1000b3
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The b3 carburetors are almost untunable. I have 2 sets. Stay away from them.


The B3 carbs are fine, i have set on my B2, i deleted the 2nd diaphragm and modified them so they behaved like the 28s, jetted to suit and they run perfect

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They are completely untunable . If you are after performance and throttle response then get 28mm carbs or aftermarket.

They are not even as consistent on the dyno as 24mm carbs are.

I thought my were just old and went and got another set. Two dyno sessions wasted.


Several people, including wire George, will either not work on them or will not warranty the work.
Kz1000b3
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KZ1000 A vs. B VM Carbs 13 Dec 2020 10:12 #839928

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As i said the problem is the second diaphragm, if that part is disabled and bypassed the pump acts the same as the 28s and are completely tunable, i doubt any of the carb re-builders will do this mod when they do the re-builds for paying customers.

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