83 440D Carb Jet Question / Air Pods

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29 Apr 2020 12:27 #824560 by 440aboveall
83 440D Carb Jet Question / Air Pods was created by 440aboveall
I recently purchased an 83 440 LTD Belt (see pictures). It was running a little rough so I pulled the carbs out, bought an ultrasonic cleaner, and cleaned everything real good. After I put them back in, it still isn't idling right and anytime I have the choke off and yank on the throttle, it dies so I might have an air leak that I need to check out. I bought some new boots for it so I'm going to install those also. I figured while I have the carbs out again, I'll set the air/fuel mixture screw which I didn't check the last time I had the carbs broken down before cleaning. I do not have the stock airbox. I have a set of those cheap mesh air pods so I was reading that people are recommending setting the idle screw to 1 3/4 turns out. Figured I'd give that a shot. I also would like to put a rebuild kit on it and was thinking about installing bigger jets because of the lack of the airbox. I just need to know what size jets I will need and whats a good rebuild kit to start off with. Does anyone also know the stock jet size on this model? I could not find it in the repair manual they have online. Any help or recommendations for this, let me know. Also, I did check the diaphragms out and they seem ok. I didn't see any holes in them. I'll attach some pictures. Good day, gentleman.

Also - Does anyone recommend I replace my air pods with a different set of pods? I have read that they make foam ones that are quite better for this 440. Let me know.

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29 Apr 2020 12:47 #824563 by loudhvx
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Find a manual somewhere. If this bike is new to you and you don't have a lot of experience rejetting, then you should start with the airbox and getting it to run correctly that way. If it doesn't run correctly with the airbox and stock jets, it's not going to run correctly with pods. It will save a lot of trial and error which can last months.
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29 Apr 2020 13:01 #824565 by 440aboveall
Replied by 440aboveall on topic 83 440D Carb Jet Question / Air Pods

loudhvx wrote: Find a manual somewhere. If this bike is new to you and you don't have a lot of experience rejetting, then you should start with the airbox and getting it to run correctly that way. If it doesn't run correctly with the airbox and stock jets, it's not going to run correctly with pods. It will save a lot of trial and error which can last months.


That is just it, I do not have the stock airbox. I bought the motorcycle as is and it did not have one, so I'm stuck with the pods. I don't mind re jetting, it's simple to pull off the carbs and pull out the jets so not a big deal. I just need to know where to start with jet sizes and kits. And I have the online manual saved in .pdf format so I'm all good there.

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29 Apr 2020 13:15 #824573 by loudhvx
Replied by loudhvx on topic 83 440D Carb Jet Question / Air Pods
Sorry, I missed that part.

I would do a quick search for an airbox to see if one might be easily gotten.

If not, then the first step is to find a reliable source on what jets were originally in there. A manual might have it, or a parts fiche on a website might have it. If all that fails, then you will have to hope someone posted it somewhere.

Before you start with the jetting, though, the process starts with a compression test, and valve adjustment. Then confirming the ignition timing. Then fixing vacuum leaks. Then confirming fuel flow and setting fuel levels. Then the jetting fun can start.
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29 Apr 2020 14:40 #824580 by Scirocco
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The Service Manual on KZR should cover your 83 model.

kzrider.com/modules/ServiceManuals/kz440.pdf

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29 Apr 2020 17:24 #824593 by Nebr_Rex
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loudhvx wrote:
Before you start with the jetting, though, the process starts with a compression test, and valve adjustment. Then confirming the ignition timing. Then fixing vacuum leaks. Then confirming fuel flow and setting fuel levels. Then the jetting fun can start.


Start with what Lou suggested.
Then You will need either K&N or UNI air filters.
6Sigma has a jet kit for the KZ440.
What I use is the DynoJet jet kit for the KZ750/4.
Only half the kit is used but it is a more complete kit.


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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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30 Apr 2020 11:11 #824641 by 440aboveall
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Do you know what size K&N filter or UNI filter I will need?

I did see the RC-1060 K&N filter that looks like it will fit. Not sure about which UNI filter fits for a cost comparison.

Thank you to all for the great feedback. Nice to know I have a great source in kzrider.com. I'm going to look into that 6sigma jet kit also.

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30 Apr 2020 17:16 - 30 Apr 2020 17:19 #824676 by Nebr_Rex
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Try 54mm.


Or 2 1/8"

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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39120.0


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