What model carbs?

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Re: What model carbs?

11 Mar 2020 17:19 - 11 Mar 2020 17:23
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I got burned by the same seller is 2012. He listed a set of handlebar bolts, with a photo showing the correct bolts along with the Kawasaki part number tag.
The bolts I received looked nothing like the bolts shown in the auction. Totally different head, nothing like the originals. When I called him on it, he said he had forgotten to update the photo to show the revised factory part. Those were not factory parts.
The photo on the action page was clearly intended to be deceptive.
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Re: What model carbs?

11 Mar 2020 21:08
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Some of those LTD's had the crappy 26mm pumpers also. Not to confuse anyone. But years ago we eliminated the pumpers. It was for the extremely lean carbs to meet Gov. emissions! They came with 105 main jets. We machined about .020" off the back side of the throttle valve at the angle. put bigger pilot jets, bigger mains of course and dropped the c-clip on the needle all the down. And back then! Sure wish we had Zed1015's corrector jets!
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12 Mar 2020 18:48
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I don't want to come off as a salesman for a foreign company but I just received Keyster kits today from the Japanese company that were ordered on March 5th, One week to receive kits that average $40 per kits and about $28 in shipping. I will purchase from them again.
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12 Mar 2020 19:04
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Mikaw wrote: I don't want to come off as a salesman for a foreign company but I just received Keyster kits today from the Japanese company that were ordered on March 5th, One week to receive kits that average $40 per kits and about $28 in shipping. I will purchase from them again.

That's a lot of money. Unless the factory jets are damaged I don't typically replace them when rebuilding carbs. Also, "carb kits" typically don't include the interconnect tube O-rings so you still need to chase those down regardless.
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12 Mar 2020 19:24
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That's a lot of money. Unless the factory jets are damaged I don't typically replace them when rebuilding carbs. Also, "carb kits" typically don't include the interconnect tube O-rings so you still need to chase those down regardless.[/quote]

I would agree normally, but the used carb rack I purchased didn't have any main jet and only one pilot jet, So factoring the cost for those missing items and Not having any additional jets to aid in tuning I weighed my options and keyster was the biggest bang for my buck. On top of that I received new float needle and seats and extremely nice rubber float bowl gaskets. If your revering to these O-Rings you are correct they didn't come in the kit. and they were sourced from an additional company.
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12 Mar 2020 20:07
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I've bought a few Keyster kits for Z1 carbs. They are the only kits I've found that include a needle jet. Unfortunately they include a lot of stuff that I would never use...three pilots, six main jets, four needles... They are made for an enthusiast who likes to change things up. That's not me. I rebuild them back to stock and don't need all the extra stuff. But I've seen the improvement when the needle jets are changed so I'll continue to buy Keyster kits. Oh..I really like their gaskets too.
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14 Mar 2020 19:47
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hardrockminer wrote: I know him well. My experience with him have been excellent. I bought two tires off him a couple of months ago.

Full disclosure...he is also one of my Facebook friends.
Yeah, we communicated and he told me he'd change the ad. Apparently his supplier started sending him the Sudco kits instead of Keyster. And, someone told me Sudco is an OEM supplier. I had gotten royally screwed a couple years ago in a "bait-and-switch" where what I actually received was not what was shown (and was a very poor substitute, at that), so I'm afraid I over-reacted a bit. All's good now. Just waiting for enough snow to melt out of our back yard so I can get the bike out of the shed and out to the garage so I can actually work on it.

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Re: What model carbs?

15 Mar 2020 05:18
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My first encounter with Marcel was about 5 years ago. He had entered a marvellously restored Z1 into the vintage bike show in Chilliwack. He lives in Seattle, not far from where I lived near Vancouver. I've never seen him on any forums but I keep in contact on Facebook.

I had a bait and switch issue with an ebayer too. I ordered a supposed NOS master cylinder cap and got a cheap plastic replica when it showed up. The ebayer claimed I had switched! After a couple of weeks of swearing at each other I complained to ebay and they forced him to return my money.
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Re: What model carbs?

15 Mar 2020 08:58
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Another issue with any carb kit is they do not include mikuni jets so the jets sizes are a mystery. The number stamped on the jet most likely is not going to be the same size as a mikuni jet. Same with the needle jet i would rather use a used mikuni needle jet over a new unknown sized one. You can buy new mikuni jets and gaskets cheaper than the aftermarket carb kits.
Everytime someone sends me a set of carbs to rebuild the first thing I do is to verify the jets. If they are not mikuni I toss them in the trash and put in the correct ones. You'd be amazed at the mixed match jets I've seen. The customer will tell me they can't get the carbs dialed in. When I check the jets they have aftermarket mixed with mikuni ot other aftermarket jets.

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