Gas 10% ethanol

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18 Mar 2019 15:34 #800594 by gordone
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In my country the gas contain 10% ethanol.
My understanding is that ethanol collect water... and then corrosion in the tank.

Will it be good to add Isopropyl alcohol to remove corrosion issue?

How often?

Some times during the season and last filling before storage of the bike for det winter?

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18 Mar 2019 19:28 #800616 by Nessism
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No isopropyl alcohol. Use a fuel stabilizer. Staybil is a popular brand in the USA. Not sure about your part of the world though.

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18 Mar 2019 23:18 #800622 by gordone
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Nessism wrote: No isopropyl alcohol. Use a fuel stabilizer. Staybil is a popular brand in the USA. Not sure about your part of the world though.


Thank you.

These one ?

How often and how many %?

www.fruugo.no/gull-orn-22208-sta-bil-fue...sZEkq8UaAqmSEALw_wcB

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19 Mar 2019 05:23 #800629 by Nessism

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19 Mar 2019 08:38 #800634 by gordone
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Nessism wrote: I use this version... www.fruugo.no/gold-eagle-22239-sta-bil-m.../p-30101972-63135725

Just follow the directions for how much to use.


Do you use it each time?
Or «now and then» and storage?

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19 Mar 2019 09:38 - 19 Mar 2019 09:43 #800636 by bluej58
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We have 10% ethanol here too, every once and a while we will get some bad gas that cause the engines to run rough so before I do anything else I will add some Heet to a fresh tank of gas, if there is water in the tank this will remove it.
In my opinion if you are riding a lot you should not need to add anything unless you get bad gas.
At the end of the season I fill the tank , add some Heet and take a short ride before parking it for Winter.
My 2 cents :)

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19 Mar 2019 11:51 - 19 Mar 2019 11:54 #800645 by KZQ
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I've used Heet to clean up suspected water in my fuel and also because alcohol raises the octane of gasoline. However, I can't see how adding more alcohol to alcohol containing fuel would be any benefit when the goal is to stop the fuel from changing phases during storage. In my mind the best storage plan is to be sure that your fuel tank is FULL before storing the bike for the winter, that way the opportunity for water vapor to condense in the tank is minimized.
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19 Mar 2019 12:40 #800648 by 650ed
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bluej58 wrote: ..........................In my opinion if you are riding a lot you should not need to add anything unless you get bad gas........


Exactly. I've owned my KZ650-C1 for 42 years and there is zero rust in the tank. However, I don't let the bike sit without fuel in the tank or let it sit for extended periods without being run. Ed

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19 Mar 2019 12:59 #800649 by kevski
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I have been using this for years, it's not fancy but it works

www.premiumsawchain.co.uk/media/uploads/...uel%20Stabiliser.jpg

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19 Mar 2019 13:05 #800651 by gordone
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650ed wrote:

bluej58 wrote: ..........................In my opinion if you are riding a lot you should not need to add anything unless you get bad gas........


Exactly. I've owned my KZ650-C1 for 42 years and there is zero rust in the tank. However, I don't let the bike sit without fuel in the tank or let it sit for extended periods without being run. Ed


Etanol 10% in the gas has not been for many years here in Europe. You have had these in the gas in US for many years?

I was just afraid it would make «new» issue with corossion since it working as a swamp, same as brake fluid.

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19 Mar 2019 13:40 #800653 by 650ed
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Where I live ethanol (10%) was added to gasoline 30+ years ago. It really is not a noticeable problem except that it slightly reduces the amount of power a gasoline engine generates. There are some fuel lines that are affected by it, but most modern fuel lines are not. Ed

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19 Mar 2019 14:32 #800659 by gordone
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650ed wrote: Where I live ethanol (10%) was added to gasoline 30+ years ago. It really is not a noticeable problem except that it slightly reduces the amount of power a gasoline engine generates. There are some fuel lines that are affected by it, but most modern fuel lines are not. Ed


I will only add stabilizer when I store the bike when the season is over and full tank. Cannot do things worse :)

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