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Runaway idle but sooty plugs???!
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If it was too lean, then adding choke will make the RPMs increase.
I am not discounting the possibility that there may be a vacuum leak. You can have a vacuum leak and still be jetted too rich at higher throttle openings. Conversely, you can be rich at idle and be jetted too lean at higher openings. The plugs only give you a weighted average of the overall jetting, but that doesn't necessarily help you diagnose a specific throttle position.
To identify jetting issues at specific throttle positions, (without a wideband o2 system) you have to do a battery of riding tests. Dynojet has a pretty good set of generic instructions for determining rich/lean.
As the others have suggested, though, other items should be checked.corrected before carb tuning. You need to get the valves sorted, and confirm good compression. Double check the ignition timing per manual, especially regarding timing advance as that can cause erratic idle if the advance comes in too soon. And, of course, vacuum leaks must be corrected or carb tuning will be a waste of time.
Since you have a mechanical carb, it should be fairly simple to get it jetted once everything else is working correctly.
I have the Dynojet instructions on my site.
s3.amazonaws.com/gpzweb/TK22mainPage/TK22jetKit/TK22jetKit.html
It is a very general description for carbs in general, so some of it won't apply in your application. It is to give you an idea of the type of tests you will need to do.
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The choke circuit rises the idle to keep alive the engine but with a very rich mixture = sooty plugs
The choke circuit has a independent richer fuel/air mixture, (as a carb in a carb), to get a better cold start of the engine.
Tell us the pilot and main jet size# in the carb.
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harmsworthj wrote
Is timing light the only way to really confirm good timing? I did the ohmmeter method on the ignition points.
If you have breaker point ignition you need a 0,30 - 0,40 mm gap for the correct dwell.
You have to use a feeler gauge to adjust the gap clearance, (independent of the ignition timing).
For the right timing you have to turn ignition plate until the breaker point opens on the "F" mark.
Check with a strobe light or a test lamp (ohmmeter).
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Preliminarily, you could at least confirm the advance springs are both in tact and not stretched. Also make sure the advanced moves freely and returns fully.
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STILL have racing idle that will drop down to a chunky, uneven idle when I crack the throttle, but if I give it gas gradually and release, rpms hang or even climb until I blip it again.
Triple checked float height, its fine.
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Aaaaand didn't change anything to be now be set on "F"...
Should I decrease main again?
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