Winter Storage Preparation
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
07 Dec 2016 18:50
The trouble that can come from running the engine is water can form in the exhaust and cause the pipes to rust out. Even running 15 minutes I would wager water is in the pipes, but Ed has had no problems, so maybe I'm wrong.
It's amazing how much water is formed running a gas engine and despite the fact the exhaust is 400 degrees or whatever, still water will be in there.
It's amazing how much water is formed running a gas engine and despite the fact the exhaust is 400 degrees or whatever, still water will be in there.
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
07 Dec 2016 19:46 - 07 Dec 2016 19:50
No rusted pipes on my KZ650, and mine are still the originals. For the first couple minutes a little condensation comes out of the little drain holes near the front of the mufflers, but that soon stops as things heat up. Ed
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
08 Dec 2016 00:18
Ed, When talking about the transmission oil, the transmission doesn't get warmed up to operating temps which effects over all oil temp. Yes I know the engine and transmission share the same oil on most modern day motorcycles.
I would run the C14 long enough for the radiator fans to come on....temp gauge said it was up to temp. But still got condensation in the oil. For me no start just to start. If started it's going at least 10 to 15 miles. During the summer, no issue.
The 900, start to tinker...let run for 10-15 minutes. Got condensation in the oil.
I live in an area with relatively low humidity. I forgot to add I throw a tender on the batteries every couple of weeks or so, Big snow storm coming so I'll be doing something else in the garage.
I would run the C14 long enough for the radiator fans to come on....temp gauge said it was up to temp. But still got condensation in the oil. For me no start just to start. If started it's going at least 10 to 15 miles. During the summer, no issue.
The 900, start to tinker...let run for 10-15 minutes. Got condensation in the oil.
I live in an area with relatively low humidity. I forgot to add I throw a tender on the batteries every couple of weeks or so, Big snow storm coming so I'll be doing something else in the garage.
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
08 Dec 2016 05:28
I wonder if the reason is that the larger engines have considerable more mass (of metal) to heat up, so it takes longer to bring the oil and metal up to full operating temperature? Maybe my KZ650 experience is only normal for the smaller engines? Ed
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
08 Dec 2016 06:45
I have a 1980 KZ 750 LTD that is used daily, and ever since I joined this forum, I have followed 650Ed advice and never had a problem with winter storage, before I used to drain the carbs and stabilize the gas, and then when spring time came, it did not start as easy as I wanted and had to clean the carbs again.
I have a 1980 Kawasaki KZ750 Ltd. I bought new. I recently managed to get it out of my garage after 28 years and put it on the road again (2010). I feel like a kid all over again. Since I have acquired 3 78 KZ1000 Ltd, 1 1981 KZ1000 Ltd, and another 1980 KZ750 Ltd. Love the LTD's.
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
08 Dec 2016 12:06mopguy wrote: I have a 1980 KZ 750 LTD that is used daily, and ever since I joined this forum, I have followed 650Ed advice and never had a problem with winter storage, before I used to drain the carbs and stabilize the gas, and then when spring time came, it did not start as easy as I wanted and had to clean the carbs again.
WEll than keep taking Eds advise
Ed is right more often than most anyone else.
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
09 Dec 2016 17:04650ed wrote:Attachment 00003b-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35-36.jpg not found
When it comes to the KZ650's Ed's got a clue I mean who else has a one owner 39 y/o unmolested bike that still looks like his.
Ed you got a smuge on your pipe under the foot peg. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
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V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
09 Dec 2016 18:06
:laugh: Thanks! Ed
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
09 Dec 2016 20:14 - 10 Dec 2016 04:51
Everyone is free to do what they want but running the bike in the winter will result in condensation inside the mufflers. There are drain holes for the water but I think running the bike can do more harm than good.
BTW, I don't have a Kawasaki owners manual but my old Suzuki GS manual calls for adding fuel stabilizer, running the engine until the stabilizer is inside the carbs, using fogging oil shoot a strong blast down each carb throat after removing the air cleaner, then stop the engine. Then they suggest changing the oil and refilling oil all the way up to the top of the filler opening, and put two tablespoons of oil in each cylinder and then turn over the engine to distribute it. The engine is to be turned over every week by putting the engine in 5th gear and turning the wheel. Remove battery and put it on a tender, deflate the tires down to 20 psi and support the bike so the tires are off the ground,
BTW, I don't have a Kawasaki owners manual but my old Suzuki GS manual calls for adding fuel stabilizer, running the engine until the stabilizer is inside the carbs, using fogging oil shoot a strong blast down each carb throat after removing the air cleaner, then stop the engine. Then they suggest changing the oil and refilling oil all the way up to the top of the filler opening, and put two tablespoons of oil in each cylinder and then turn over the engine to distribute it. The engine is to be turned over every week by putting the engine in 5th gear and turning the wheel. Remove battery and put it on a tender, deflate the tires down to 20 psi and support the bike so the tires are off the ground,
Ed
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www.kzrider.com/forum/faq-wiki/618026-new-owner-things-to-know
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/604901...z750e-project-thread
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Re: Winter Storage Preparation
09 Dec 2016 20:32Nessism wrote: Everyone is free to do what they want but running the bike in the winter will result in condensation inside the mufflers. There are drain holes for the water but I think running the bike can do more harm than good.
I may pull the meg and point the collector out the garage door, and fire the mutha up! Fifteen minutes should be enough to wake up the hood and melt a little snow. :woohoo:
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