Pathway Restriction
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Pathway Restriction
06 Jun 2016 10:11
Should I reduce the restriction where the carburetor manifolds meet the head? If so, will something good happen?
I'm guessing the opening drops from 36mm (carb ID) to 30mm +/- at the smallest hole diameter of the manifold. There is a well-defined lip there, but I fear that modifying it may create a problem...
I'm guessing the opening drops from 36mm (carb ID) to 30mm +/- at the smallest hole diameter of the manifold. There is a well-defined lip there, but I fear that modifying it may create a problem...
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06 Jun 2016 10:18
You need to blend the manifold to the inlet tract to eliminate the step.
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06 Jun 2016 10:24zed1015 wrote: You need to blend the manifold to the inlet tract to eliminate the step.
Best tool(s) to use for that? I have a round rasp file, and a spindle sander...
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06 Jun 2016 14:41
I use carbide burrs and a flexi drive but hand held files will do the job just fine if the person doing the job is competent enough.
It will just take more time doing it by hand but being aluminium it won't take long.
It will just take more time doing it by hand but being aluminium it won't take long.
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06 Jun 2016 16:38zed1015 wrote: I use carbide burrs and a flexi drive but hand held files will do the job just fine if the person doing the job is competent enough.
It will just take more time doing it by hand but being aluminium it won't take long.
The oscillating spindle sander method...
With the removed carb manifold upside down on the flat table surface, its easy to sand off the rubber right up to the visible impression created by the edge that the intake runner formed in the rubber surface. A must to reattach the manifold in the same carb location it was removed from, for a good re-seal. The resulting inside rubber surface is smooth and flat!
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07 Jun 2016 00:24 - 07 Jun 2016 00:25daveo wrote: The oscillating spindle sander method...
With the removed carb manifold upside down on the flat table surface, its easy to sand off the rubber right up to the visible impression created by the edge that the intake runner formed in the rubber surface. A must to reattach the manifold in the same carb location it was removed from, for a good re-seal. The resulting inside rubber surface is smooth and flat
AH! It wasn't clear that you meant opening up the inlet rubber and not the aluminium tract in which case your method is ideal and I don't use files or burrs for that.
Usually I fit the rubbers and trim the lip in situ to match the head.
Your step up in diameter from smaller inlet rubber to larger inlet tract is not as detrimental as the fuel meeting a step in the alloy where the tract diameter is smaller than the rubber which could cause unwanted turbulence and possible minor (although probably undetectable) flow restriction at full bore.
Either way, a smooth transition for the fuel path is always favourable.
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Re: Pathway Restriction
07 Jun 2016 20:07
years ago my brother took a steel shaft that was the size he needed and heated it with a torch then took the manifolds an slide em on the hot shaft. kinda smoky but it worked great.
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07 Jun 2016 20:29eddiem wrote: years ago my brother took a steel shaft that was the size he needed and heated it with a torch then took the manifolds an slide em on the hot shaft. kinda smoky but it worked great.
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