28mm pumper help

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08 May 2015 18:35 #671184 by tbird
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Hi new member here looking for help
helping friend rebuild set of 28mm pumper carb , with both pumps , carbs came some what a part , like to know the jets size , and in the bowls are a weight and round steel ball under a c-clip , do all 4 bowls get these , and any other info on these carb will be helpful

bike is a 79kz 1000 stock motor ,pods , 4 to 1 exhaust ,

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08 May 2015 19:56 #671194 by SWest
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It's hard to understand what you just said about the bowls. Only one bowl has the pump. You say it has two? The ball bearing is a check valve/ball. If the carbs are flooding, it's the diaphragm/'s that is the culprit. Each carb has a jet that is controlled by the pump/'s. If it leaks, gas will be sucked into the carbs uncontrolled.
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08 May 2015 21:34 #671208 by tbird
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hey Steve . thanks for replay , yes has 2 pumps one square has rod on it and a triangle one on bottom ,
and do all 4 carbs bowls get a check ball ?

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09 May 2015 05:04 #671227 by JimB
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Yes,...all 4 bowls get a check ball and c clip to keep it in.

For jets,...a good starting point would be 17.5 pilots and 117.5 mains.

Jim

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09 May 2015 05:14 - 09 May 2015 05:15 #671228 by 650ed
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According to the parts diagram on Kawasaki.com (see www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDiagram/144219/1979/KZ1000-A3 ) all 4 carbs have the check valves. Ed

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09 May 2015 08:19 - 09 May 2015 08:26 #671241 by martin_csr
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tbird wrote: hey Steve . thanks for replay , yes has 2 pumps one square has rod on it and a triangle one on bottom ,
and do all 4 carbs bowls get a check ball ?

It sounds like there's one accelerator pump --- two would be unusual.
The triangular setup is a vacuum sensor --- I think it acts to shut off fuel to the accelerator pump when the engine stops. The thing is disabled at the factory on some models (such as my 81 650).

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09 May 2015 10:19 #671247 by tbird
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Hi Thanks Guys , making little more since now , some great info, , if you come up with any thing else let me know ,

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13 May 2015 10:55 #671945 by jeff80kz1000e2
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martin_csr wrote:

tbird wrote: hey Steve . thanks for replay , yes has 2 pumps one square has rod on it and a triangle one on bottom ,
and do all 4 carbs bowls get a check ball ?

It sounds like there's one accelerator pump --- two would be unusual.
The triangular setup is a vacuum sensor --- I think it acts to shut off fuel to the accelerator pump when the engine stops. The thing is disabled at the factory on some models (such as my 81 650).


+1 on the triangular vacuum sensor, my 80kz1000st has it but is dis abled as well per my manual and physical check

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19 May 2015 23:23 #672817 by tbird
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hi on these carb what size fuel line are you using from float bowls to float bowl , ?? 1/8 to small ,1/4/ to big .
he was wanting the blue fuel line , any one know of any thing that will work ?

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19 May 2015 23:49 #672818 by zed1015
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Are you sure they are 28mm pumpers.
Only the 26mm 's had both diaphragms fitted.
The 28's had the triangular one blanked off.

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20 May 2015 05:14 - 20 May 2015 05:18 #672834 by martin_csr
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tbird wrote: hi on these carb what size fuel line are you using from float bowls to float bowl , ?? 1/8 to small ,1/4/ to big .
he was wanting the blue fuel line , any one know of any thing that will work ?


3/16 seems like the logical size to try. Metric --- probably 5mm [(3/16) x 25.4 = 4.8mm]

And all 4 bowls should have a ball, weight & clip, and on the pump nozzles at the carb body gasket surface each nozzle should have an o-ring.
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