Stock airbox and mac4into1, what jetting?

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27 May 2014 20:56 #634242 by ShouterVW
Okay the bike is an 81 650 with vm24ss carbs. Currently I have 17.5 pilots and 102.5 mains. I'm not convinced this is the right combo. I am no tuning expert, but it is a little doggy. What would be a good combo? Thanks

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27 May 2014 21:17 - 27 May 2014 21:21 #634243 by azman857
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28 May 2014 09:13 #634293 by ShouterVW
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It idles well, but there's a definite hesitation when I twist to full or near full throttle. It stumbles stumbles, then catches up and really goes.

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28 May 2014 10:20 #634298 by 650ed
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Have you tried the stock 15 pilot jet? Ed

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28 May 2014 11:28 - 28 May 2014 11:34 #634304 by Patton
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ShouterVW wrote: It idles well, but there's a definite hesitation when I twist to full or near full throttle. It stumbles stumbles, then catches up and really goes.


Fresh clean air filter?

Spark plug reading?

Fuel levels per clear tube tests?

Jet needle clip in stock position?

Timing advancer lubed and functional?

Good Fortune! :)

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28 May 2014 11:59 #634308 by Cynjut
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Patton wrote:

ShouterVW wrote: It idles well, but there's a definite hesitation when I twist to full or near full throttle. It stumbles stumbles, then catches up and really goes.


Timing advancer lubed and functional?

What he said. I'd start with the timing advancer, but the rest of these things need checked as well.

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28 May 2014 20:56 #634384 by ShouterVW
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It is a clean air filter, jet needles are in stock and only position they can be in. Although, there is a thick and thin shim on the top and bottom of the needle clip. I have the thick one on top, and thin one on bottom. Maybe it needs to be the other way? How to know for certain? Timing advancer is free and functional. I checked my float heights awhile back but probably should do it again. As for the plugs, I will pull tomorrow and share my findings

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29 May 2014 05:56 - 29 May 2014 05:57 #634415 by 650ed
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You sated "Currently I have 17.5 pilots." Have you tried the stock 15 pilot jet?? Ed

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29 May 2014 08:47 #634436 by ShouterVW
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I have not, I upped the pilots assuming it will run better with the 4into1. I will try the stockers

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29 May 2014 13:06 #634479 by Cynjut
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With the VM carbs, you don't generally need to rejet for new exhaust unless you completely open them. The only time you need to jet up is if you swap out the stock airbox for pods.

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29 May 2014 14:29 #634502 by ShouterVW
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Sounds great. I'll out stockers back in on pilots and mains

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