Cant find my Pilot screw

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09 Apr 2014 17:15 #628460 by Jayblefty
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I have a 1980 kz440ltd. This is my second kz and my last one was the same model just three years newer. I have done a bunch of routine tune up stuff, valves, cleaned carbs and did a bench synch, plugs and oil. I want to reset the carb to factory settings because everything seems to be stock but i CAN NOT find the pilot screw... I have worked on other carbs and know what to look for but I can not for the life of me find the screw on this set of carbs, or even a place to put the missing screw. I am going to try to upload some pictures and if it works and anyone can point me in the right direction I would be extremely grateful. I am stumped and I am hoping adjusting the idle mix will stop the popping i am getting...
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09 Apr 2014 18:01 #628466 by 650ed
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Take a look at the diagram below. I suspect your pilot screw is hiding under a little plug. Ed

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09 Apr 2014 19:15 #628480 by Jayblefty
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Checked as soon as I got home and the spaces on both carbs that the diagram point to are solid. The little black cap is a plug for an inlet valve. I have one on both carbs.

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09 Apr 2014 19:38 - 09 Apr 2014 19:38 #628485 by 650ed
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Interesting. So is there no plug where the arrow points in the image below? If that's the case, I wonder if they are the same model carbs as stock? Ed

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09 Apr 2014 20:04 #628489 by Jayblefty
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Yes the front of both carbs look just like that with the little rounded bit but both are solid on top with no inlet to the carb or spot for a screw... Is there supposed to be a master carb and a slave carb? Is there a chance that I have two secondary carbs and no primary? I tried to upload a birds eye view pic of that spot on my carb but it wouldnt upload from my phone and its dark out now. I will mess with it in the morning and see if I can get some better pictures of it up. Thank you for the help so far tho!!!

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10 Apr 2014 00:43 - 10 Apr 2014 00:47 #628509 by gd4now
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You are there and I am not so I am not telling you you are wrong. But IIRC the 1980 440 came with Keihin CV36 carbs (other than those sold in the West German market which came with Keihin CV32 carbs .

It is my understanding that the pilot screw on the cv36s is located just where Ed points to in his pic.
On the 32s they are on the side

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10 Apr 2014 05:14 #628526 by ZERO
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The cap will look like a tiny freeze plug. It might, at first glance look like it's solid. If it's a little steel cap, you've got to drill through it very carefully and pull them out with a metal screw. Then you'll see the needles underneath. If you drill, be carefull to stop the moment the bit cuts through the cap, or you will damage the needle.

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10 Apr 2014 11:28 #628566 by Jayblefty
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I dug at the spot everyone is pointing to and it is most assuredly a solid piece of the carb body. I took the tops off to check the diaphram on both carbs and there is no screw that leads in from the inside ether... I must have some Chitty after market carbs sent from the depths of hell to make my life difficult :) I will make it work tho!!! Thank you all for the help. I will keep you posted on my progress and hopefully have it figured out soon. I spend all my extra time before and after work digging into this bike and the best part is my Wife is cool with it because it is her bike!!!!!

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10 Apr 2014 11:36 #628568 by gd4now
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If you have the carbs off of the bike, then look into the throat of the carb from the engine side.

You should see a small opening just below the location where we think the pilot screw is located. Is there one there?

The attached shows this location. #2 in the pic.

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10 Apr 2014 13:17 #628581 by Jayblefty
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I will take them off when I get home and look at it. Just had them off this morning to double check all of the jets.

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