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25 Jan 2014 13:58 #620010 by newoldride
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I was cleaning the carbs on my 1979 kz1000 it has pod air filters and a 4 into 1 kerker header the carbs are 26vm mikuni my issue is I pulled the jets out and cleaned them I had 4 115 main jets but the pilot jets were two 17's and two 15's I didn't pay any attention to witch came out where.Should I order 2 more 17 jets or is there any reason there would be two different sizes any help will be appeciated

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25 Jan 2014 14:09 #620011 by roy-b-boy-b
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Does this bike run good like this? That is lean. I run 20/120 with that set up. Do you have the baffle in and wrapped?

I would order the same size jets. That was a old school trick to have bigger jets on the inside cylinders. On some bikes it was opposite and it was bigger jets on the outside.

Make life easy and install same size jets all around.

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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25 Jan 2014 15:49 #620027 by newoldride
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I'm running the baffle wrapped right now I want to take it out and just run the end cap it seems to run ok I live in arizona and we are about sea level if I pull the baffle out should I step up the jets my carbs don't have accelerator pumps so the jets are doing everything

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25 Jan 2014 19:23 #620042 by roy-b-boy-b
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If you are happy with the way the bike runs and it doesn't have a flat spot around 4700 -5000 RPM I would leave it alone. If you remove the wrapping you will probably need bigger jets.

Put the bigger pilot jets in the 2/3 cylinders.

I always thought the bikes of that year were very lean because the rules for emission were getting a lot stiffer.

The bike probably has different carbs on them. If you wanted to check the position of the needle clip you probably would find the clip has been raised.

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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25 Jan 2014 20:41 #620053 by newoldride
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Thanks for the info

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26 Jan 2014 10:53 - 26 Jan 2014 10:55 #620115 by roy-b-boy-b
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I should have stated that if you use the current jets put the bigger ones in the middle. If you order new jets I would use the same size jets on all cylinders.

And I should have said you will probably find the clips lowered.

It was a long day yesterday. I was up 24 hours.

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000
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29 Jan 2014 12:58 #620495 by Cynjut
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For the curious, the bigger jets on the inside cylinders is to keep those cylinders a little rich, which (theoretically) keeps the cylinders a little cooler.

So, as pointed out, if you run the dissimilar jets, make sure they are on cylinders 2 & 3. Personally, I'd switch them all out to the larger size (order two new larger jets) and have the same jet sizes on all four carbs.

1977 KZ-1000 A1
1982 KZ-1000 M2 Frankenbike

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29 Jan 2014 15:23 #620519 by newoldride
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that's what I'm doing thanks for the info

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03 Feb 2014 18:55 #621029 by mtkawboy
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The 76 carbs weren't lean but everything after that was. Ive run 115s in my 1105 motor for 35 years both at sea level and in Mt, @ 3500 ft. Id leave it like it was with the 117.5s in the middle. What ever runs good for you

78-KZ1000/1105, 80 KZ1000, 82 Kawasaki GPZ750, 95 Harley Fatboy, 80 Suzuki GS1100ET, 81 GS1100E parts bike, 83 GS1100SD Katana/1394,78 Yamaha XT500, 81 Yamaha XS650, 78 Yamaha XS650E, 48 Whizzer model J motorbike, 71 Honda CT70H, 71 Honda CT70, 81 IT 250 Yamaha,82 Honda XL100S owned

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