Replacement for carb grommets?

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10 Mar 2014 20:50 #624780 by DoubleZed
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Sure thing! I'll send you a PM

Corbin Teal
1976 Kz900 project:
Rebuilt engine
Suzuki GSXR750 front end
ZX636 rear with GSXR600 shock
2009 Yamaha R1 wheels

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13 Mar 2014 09:37 #625039 by peter1958
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19 Mar 2014 20:54 #625854 by DoubleZed
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Thanks Pete, they're a helluva lot better than the ones I put back in. :) Now to swap them out one of these warmer, drier days. Cheers!

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1976 Kz900 project:
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08 Jan 2016 17:23 #706018 by Maintain360
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Found them see 1976 threw 1979 Suzuki used the same carbs minkuni GS750B 1977 (B) USA (E03) SEAL 1355645010, www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs750-b-c-ec-n-en-1...048/seal_1355645010/ or
www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/suz/...a/carburetor-gs1000n :) :blink: :blink: :blink: :dry: :dry: :unsure: :unsure: :P :laugh:

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10 Jan 2016 05:26 #706128 by jdvorchak
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Just putting this out there. I have successfully revived rubber boots and other rubber items which are either too expensive to replace or no longer available. I used a 1:3 mixture of winter green oil and xylene. Soak for a couple of days and when dry they are like new and stay that way. Mix and keep it in a capped container because your garage will smell like spearmint or winter green chewing gum for quite a while.

Don't fix it until it's broken.
John

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83 KZ1100LTD

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10 Jan 2016 06:31 - 10 Jan 2016 06:34 #706131 by z1kzonly
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jdvorchak wrote: Just putting this out there. I have successfully revived rubber boots and other rubber items which are either too expensive to replace or no longer available. I used a 1:3 mixture of winter green oil and xylene. Soak for a couple of days and when dry they are like new and stay that way. Mix and keep it in a capped container because your garage will smell like spearmint or winter green chewing gum for quite a while.

Yes wintergreen oil! Did you pick up this info from our friend Nils? (NobleHops) he posted this from another forum.
www.cbxclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8753

I went right to the chemist! I purchased a 1000ml (33oz.) plastic jug of this 100% institutional grade wintergreen oil.
There are 4 oz. bottles for sale on ebay and amazon.
it is called (Methyl Salicylate) it is not un-stable, was able to ship regular USPS. MSDS was not too bad. when I get some other small containers, I might have some 4 - 8 ozs. for sale. does smell clinical! I opened it up and put a small amouNt in the basement tool room. Smells good!
MSDS reads HEATH -1 FIRE - 1 REACTIVE - 0 PPE - H.
Product Name: Methyl salicylate
Catalog Codes: SLM3187
CAS#: 119-36-8
RTECS: VO4725000
TSCA: TSCA 8(b) inventory: Methyl salicylate
CI#: Not available.
Synonym: Oil of Wintergreen (Synthetic); 2-
Hydroxybenzoic acid methyl ester
Chemical Formula: HOC6H4COOCH3
Contact Information:
Sciencelab.com, Inc.
14025 Smith Rd.
Houston, Texas 77396
US Sales: 1-800-901-7247
International Sales: 1-281-441-4400
Order Online: ScienceLab.com
CHEMTREC (24HR Emergency Telephone), call:
1-800-424-9300
International CHEMTREC, call: 1-703-527-3887
For non-emergency assistance, call: 1-281-441-4400
Sorry! I was a Union safety & hazmat member! I received and shipped lots of chemicals.

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Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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10 Jan 2016 09:15 #706153 by jdvorchak
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I don't remember who I got it from.. Some google etc. A friend of mine used it on the boots from his 76 CB750A and had a bunch left over. He gave the chemicals to me to try on my KZ and it worked better than I hoped. Items I soaked swelled to almost twice the size but when I pulled them out and let them air dry overnight they returned to their original shape. I'm talking a couple of those boots were as stiff as a board. 2 or 3 days of soaking and they are as flexible as new parts!

Now buying the chems isn't cheap. Had over $30 invested but that's still cheaper than new boots. Plus the left over mixture is still good. I still only used about 1/2 of the wintergreen oil so I have plenty left. Every once in a while I throw some rubber part in there and saves me a trip to the dealership or eBay. So far that initial $30 has saved 8 air box boots and countless grommets and various other rubber parts.

Don't fix it until it's broken.
John

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83 KZ1100LTD

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10 Jan 2016 09:51 #706154 by rrsmsw9999
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That sounds like it would work great, do you think the solution could be brushed on boots before removal? New ones are nice, but the problem is getting old hard ones off. I have cut the last two set I worked with off with snippers cause they were so hard I could not get em to budge. R

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10 Jan 2016 10:09 #706156 by floivanus
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Silicon spray works as well, just gotta keep it off of plastic parts, it's supposed to not play well with plastic

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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10 Jan 2016 12:04 #706173 by jdvorchak
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rrsmsw9999 wrote: That sounds like it would work great, do you think the solution could be brushed on boots before removal? New ones are nice, but the problem is getting old hard ones off. I have cut the last two set I worked with off with snippers cause they were so hard I could not get em to budge. R


The xylene would probably evaporate before the oil would soak in so I don't think that would work. On stubborn boots like that I've just used spray silicon and let it sit overnight. Especially where the boot meets the air box and the carb body. On really stubborn boots I was always able to push them back into the air box to gain the clearance needed to remove the carbs. Also you can use a heat gun to soften them up a little and they don't cool that fast allowing you some time to get them tucked back into the air box. Also spray the silicon where the carb goes into the cylinder "insulator". Helps a lot getting the carbs out. Less likely to tear those expensive insulators up as well.

Don't fix it until it's broken.
John

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10 Jan 2016 12:09 - 10 Jan 2016 12:10 #706176 by jdvorchak
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floivanus wrote: Silicon spray works as well, just gotta keep it off of plastic parts, it's supposed to not play well with plastic


With all do respect, silicon won't soak in like the wintergreen oil does. Silicon does soften them up some but not like this stuff. Honestly it makes them like new. As for plastic parts? I have never heard that there is a problem with silicon and plastic. As a matter of fact a lot of automotive detail shops use silicon on the plastic trim on cars/trucks. Silicon is an inert substance so it has very little effect on anything it comes into contact with. That's why it's used in surgical tubing and breast implants to name a couple.

Don't fix it until it's broken.
John

83 KZ550M1
83 KZ1100LTD

Also own:
2010 Harley Ultra Classic Limited, 2008 Harley low rider 71 CB350/sidecar
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10 Jan 2016 13:36 - 10 Jan 2016 13:37 #706193 by floivanus
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With due respect, it works; on bike spray, off bike spray liberally and toss in a proper sealed container.

Been doing it for years and have only changed one set of intake boots and one set if airbox boots out of 50 or so bikes, and to boot the spray is available at any parts store, walmart etc.

The z1 airbox on my bike and the airbox boot for my H2 are the more recent pieces I've treated with it

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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