Tricky carb I.D. on Canadian '79 MKII

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28 Jul 2013 20:34 #598765 by NotStock
Tricky carb I.D. on Canadian '79 MKII was created by NotStock
Hey everyone!

I recently bought and revived an old MKII. I'm very excited to be working on and riding this old monster. The bike came with 2 sets of carbs, both matching. The issue is that I can't seem to identify them. They are definitely 28mm bore without an accelerator pump. The numbers stamped in the flange are 113 over 2.

I've been poring over this site and have yet to come across anything referring to these carbs. I suspect they are just as set of your run of the mill VM28, but it would be nice to have some confirmation. I can't seem to find anything with this linkage (bottom adjuster) and these numbers.

help is certainly appreciated!
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28 Jul 2013 20:42 #598768 by NotStock
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NVM, I found it!! Now I just need the stock jetting. The mains in mine are 123. WOT feels like it is lacking, but I don't know which way it wants to go.

From this thread , posted by gd4now:


Here are the numbers listed on the Kaw site

vm28ss carbs
78 KZ1000D1 Z1R kaw site list 1040
80 KZ1000D3 Z1R kaw site list 1204 - US Canada list 1126
79 KZ1000E1 shaft kaw site list 1098 - US E1 and E2 Canada 1109 both E1 and E2
80 KZ1000E2 shaft kaw site list 1098 - US E1 and E2 Canada 1109 both E1 and E2
79 KZ1000A3 - kaw site list 1131 - shows US on A3 A3A and A4 - 1132 for canada for A3 A3A and A4
80 KZ1000A4 - kaw site list 1131 - shows US on A3 A3A and A4 - 1132 for canada for A3 A3A and A4
79 KZ1000C2 (police) kaw site list 1066 - shows C2 and C3 and C4
80 KZ1000C3 (police) kaw site list 1066 - shows C2 and C3 and C4
81 KZ1000C4 (police) kaw site list 1066 - shows C2 and C3 and C4

vm26ss carbs
76 KZ900A4 kaw site list 255
77 KZ900A5 kaw site list 255
76 KZ900B1 LTD kaw site list 255
77 KZ1000B1 LTD - kaw site list 1055
78 KZ1000B2 LTD - kaw site list 1017 - shows used on B1 and B2
79 kz1000B3 LTD - kaw site list 1089
80 KZ1000B4 LTD - kaw site list 1202 - shows used on B3 and B4
77 KZ1000A1 - kaw site list 1024 - shows used on A1 A2 and A2A
78 KZ1000A2
78 KZ1000A2A
78 KZ1000C1 (police) kaw site list 1025 - shows C1 and C1A

I have some other numbers from some other parts list but am still putting the list together
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28 Jul 2013 22:51 #598795 by Patton
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Per FSM, KZ1000-A3 and KZ1000-D2, Mikuni VM28SS:
Main Jet 105R
Pilot Jet 15
Needle Jet 0-1
Jet Needle 5CN15-3
Throttle Valve Cutaway 1.75

kawasaki.com shows for Canada same as FSM.

kawasaki.com shows for U.S.A.:
Main Jet A102.5
Pilot Jet A15
Needle Jet A0-4
Jet Needle 5CN29
Throttle Valve Cutaway 2.0

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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28 Jul 2013 23:46 - 28 Jul 2013 23:49 #598818 by NotStock
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Awesome, thanks!

This thing is jetted 15 pilot and 123 mains. I'm thinking it's quite fat on the mains. The PO did ad a 4-2 exhaust that is quite open, as well as K&N pods, but I still think that is one hell of a jump up on the mains. Plug reading would agree.

Anyone else have a set of these carbs running that large on the main jets?

I am going to do some plug reading runs later this week, but in the meantime some input would be nice.

Thanks!

Oh, Ps, the spare set that I'm rebuilding has a BENT needle jet. I dont know how you bend a jet, but this jet is bent. Looks like someone pulled the jet out and then hit it with a hammer. When I tighten the jet up it sticks on the needle, so I need a new one. I can't seem to find them anywhere, anyone know where to get one? Z1E doesn't seem to have them listed.
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29 Jul 2013 04:57 - 29 Jul 2013 04:58 #598845 by Patton
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationkawasaki.com shows for Canada:
Bleeder Pipe 49122-1008 NLA
Needle Jet 16017-1011

kawasaki.com shows for U.S.A.:
Bleeder Pipe 49122-1001
Needle Jet 16017-1035 jet


ebay might possibly be helpful:








If not already done, could Google the part numbers in searching for possible sources.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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29 Jul 2013 19:16 #598971 by roy-b-boy-b
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Call Z1E. 123 jets seem small for a set of 28s. My 26s run 20/120 with pods and open exhaust.

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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