'80 440 LTD w/ weird RPM issue

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10 May 2013 00:47 #586673 by CaptainDarron
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So I picked up a junky '80 440 LTD for a steal ($150), but as you'll have with cheap garage finds, it's got lots of issues for me to tinker with. Here's my current battle.

The bike fires up like a charm with the choke On, but then the idle bounces between 2k and 3k RPM. Turn the choke Off, and the RPMS jump up to 7k RPM.

I assumed it was a vacuum leak, so I replaced the carb boots and threw on some new carbs (that the seller said were freshly serviced, but I haven't pulled them apart to verify). Furthermore, I can't find a leak with starter fluid.

The bike had pods on it with the old carbs, but I've since gone back to the OEM airbox, which desperately needs a new filter, but the bike was doing the same thing with the pods, so I don't think it's that.

For extra fun, I've included a video of the bike in all it's weirdness for your viewing entertainment!

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10 May 2013 02:29 #586678 by Nebr_Rex
Replied by Nebr_Rex on topic '80 440 LTD w/ weird RPM issue
Are your throttle butterflys closing all the way?

2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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10 May 2013 11:27 #586717 by Del_Herring
Replied by Del_Herring on topic '80 440 LTD w/ weird RPM issue
Normally I would expect for high idle w/ choke and no idle without to occur if you had vacuum leaks. I'm just guessing at this point, but maybe they jetted the carbs really rich. My thought process being that adding air to the system seems to increase the ammount of power it's putting out, so maybe it's just got more fuel than it can use.

Have you checked out the spark plugs to see if you can get a read on them? If they're really old, you might have to replace them first just so you know what you're working with. Any smoke from the exhaust or other indicators?

1983 KZ750-N2 Spectre

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10 May 2013 11:36 #586719 by z1wiz
Replied by z1wiz on topic '80 440 LTD w/ weird RPM issue
Had the similar symptoms on a 440 LTD when a customer thought he could rebuild the carbs himself to save some money. He COMPLETELY tore them apart including removing the butterflies. On reassembly the the butterflies were installed backwards. Does not make for a good seal in the carb bore.

Over 30 years with z1's, Currently down to only one 75, a j model dragbike, and 2 KZ1000 dragbikes.

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