rough! smoke, backfire

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08 Dec 2012 14:04 #562045 by battleholic92
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i got my 79 kz400 running but a bit rough, there's white smoke and occasional backfire, any hints on how i can repair this?





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08 Dec 2012 16:28 #562052 by tinlizzie37
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Your bike is only running on one cylinder. Check the coil to the one that's not firing or switch them to find the bad one. If it's firing, then it's fuel starvation. You'll have to check the carbs out or the one not firing. See if any of the diaphragms are have any holes in them are cracks. A good carb cleaning may be in order. A factory service manual is loaded with a wealth of knowledge. They're worth the money. Bob

Bob KZ 650 E1, En 450

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08 Dec 2012 16:57 #562054 by MFolks
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I'd get a multimeter, and check the resistor in the sparkplug cap. It's supposed to be 5000 ohms, but heat, vibration and age can cause them to fail. To check it,unscrew the cap from the sparkplug wire, but the multimeter on OHMs(it looks like an upside down horseshoe, the letter Omega).

Set the range on the multimeter on 20K(20,000),put one of the meter's probes where the sparkplug went, and the remaining probe where the sparkplug wire went. If the cap is good, you should get a reading. If no reading, then replace both sparkplug caps.

How old are the ignition wires and ignition coil? If original to the bike, consider these parts beyond their service life. www.z1enterprises.com sells coils, sparkplug caps, and sparkplug wires.


Read this:

Ignition Coils And Sparkplug Wire Choices

What came with the bike, were ignition coils that even when new were marginal, add years of cooking under the tank in the stop and go traffic, and the coils will probably fail when hot.

Replacement coils can be bought at www.z1enterprises.com I believe “Emgo” is the brand. They also carry the popular Dyna 2.2 and 3 ohm coils, along with replacement sparkplug wires.

Now, you have a choice on sparkplug wires:

1.Copper plug wires with no supression caps (the best choice, but will produce audio noise on Radio’s and TV’s). Not only do the copper core wires deliver better spark, they will also deliver a much longer lifespan - carbon core wires are prone to erratic spark delivery and early breakdown, & short lifespan.

2.Copper plug wires with supression caps (a built in 5000 ohm resistor, that can sometimes fail, like what came with the bike). These should be checked with a multimeter now and then, as heat can cause them to become intermittent.

3.Copper plug wires with no supression caps, but using resistor plugs(the “R” in the plug number).

4.Supression plug wires with no supression caps.

NEVER use resistor plugs combined with supression caps along with supression plug wires, as now there will be possibly three (3) sources of resistance in the secondary windings of the ignition coils, greatly reducing the spark energy.

Another choice is the Accel 3 ohm coils, with a similar, primary(small wire)electrical connection, using ring terminals as the Dyna ignition coils do. Whatever brand of coil you go with, make sure the primary wires will clear the mounting hardware, as the spacers come close, possibly blowing a fuse. Some riders have replaced the metal spacers with non conductive Nylon spacers, reducing the chance of an electrical problem.

7mm sparkplug wires will fit the stock ignition coils(if they have replaceable wires, indicated by screw off caps on the coils with ridges). The sparkplug wires fit into a port with a brass ”Stinger” that goes into the sparkplug wire or lead(the Brit’s. Canadians, and other countries call the sparkplug wires (“High Tension Leads”).

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General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
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08 Dec 2012 17:00 #562055 by MFolks
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Also, try another brand of sparkplug, as the NGK's are having a quality problem with plugs failing right out of the box, or soon after.

www.gadgetjq.com/spark_plug_cross_reference_motorcycle.htm

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)

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08 Dec 2012 18:18 #562063 by 650ed
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I notice it's running at 2000 rpm. Will it idle at a reasonable rpm (around 1000)? Have you tried pulling off 1 spark plug cap to see if engine runs differently; then put that back and repeat with the other plug cap to see if it is indeed running on 1 cylinder?

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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