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Ethanol In Gasoline Problems (E-10, E-15, E-20, E-30, & E-85)
Certain materials commonly used with gasoline may be incompatible with high-level ethanol blends, causing them to degrade and contaminate the fuel. Metals that have been shown to degrade over time in the presence of high-level alcohol blends include brass,(floats & jets) lead, zinc(carb bodies) and lead-based solder.
Nonmetallic materials that degrade when in contact with ethanol include natural rubber, polyurethane, cork gasket material, leather, polyvinyl chloride (PVC) polyamides, and certain thermoplastic or thermoset polymers.
On the other hand, unplated steel, nickel-plated steel, stainless steel, black iron and bronze have shown resistance to ethanol corrosion, with nonmetallic materials like reinforced fiberglass, Buna-N, Neoprene rubber, polypropylene, nitrile rubber, Viton and Teflon meeting acceptable usage standards with E85.
1. Ethanol can break down resins and fillers in fiberglass gas tanks, causing them to leak.
2. Resins leached from fiberglass tanks can go through the fuel system, sticking to valves and other internal engine parts.
3.These deposits have caused bent pushrods and have clogged intake valves.
4.The alcohol attracts water, leading to increased corrosion in metal gas tanks.
5.Water in the fuel affects the octane and leads to knocking and decreased performance.
6.Ethanol acts as an efficient solvent, gradually cleaning out the accumulated gunk in fuel tanks and lines, and clogging carburetors.
7. Certain rubber gaskets and fuel lines are weakened by ethanol. Some rubber fuel lines may develop internal swelling, restricting the flow of gasoline. My understanding is the Silicone fuel lines resist the effects of Ethanol in gas.
8. The Ethanol in the gas has been reported to attack the glue used in gas filters, rendering them useless, as the paper filter medium is now coated with glue. It also softened the filter hose connection ends, causing possible failure.
9. Here’s a picture of an Ethanol softened fuel filter:
www.kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/54385...ine-visu-filter-junk
If your float bowls needle valves are rubber tipped, the Ethanol may be attacking them,making the floats not work correctly.
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lushbaugh wrote: my far left carb overflows intermittenly and if its drip dropping and i touch the nipple on the bottom of the bowl it will drain ? its odd, any quick fix like popping just the bowl off and bending the tang on the float?
Overflow circuit may be partially obstructed.
Bending the float tang is to adjust fuel level with a properly functioning (non-leaking) float valve.
Bending the float tang is NOT to cure a leaking float valve.
A discharge of gasoline through the overflow nipple could result from such conditions as:
Dirty float needle and/or seat;
Worn float needle and/or seat;
Cracked and/or loose overflow tube;
Leaking and/or damaged float;
Bent (sticking/rubbing) float assembly;
Float improperly installed upside-down.
Attempting to prevent float valve leakage by bending the float tang is imo ill-advised, and will most likely result in an out-of-spec fuel level.
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The only way I'm aware of that that the bowl drain can leak is if the O-ring on the drain screw is bad (eaten up by ethanol?). It is not an overflow drain.lushbaugh wrote: i touch the nipple on the bottom of the bowl it will drain ?
I have no center stand either, so I use a couple 2x4's under side stand and it makes it set pretty level. Be very careful as it could have a tendency to tip over to the right !
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jga2z wrote: The only way I'm aware of that that the bowl drain can leak is if the O-ring on the drain screw is bad (eaten up by ethanol?). It is not an overflow drain.
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Maybe on your carbs, but lots of carbs do have overflow drains on the bottom. Ed
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