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14 Aug 2011 00:32 #468924 by dabarnguywi
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Hi... new to the forum, so if my prob has been discussed, just redirect me. I've had an 82 kz1100 spectre for a couple of years... needed a serious carb clean when I bought it with 10K on it. Ran it a couple of years and it started weepin' oil from many places. Last Winter pulled the head & cylinders off, hone, rings, valve lap & all seals and gaskets going back together. Valve lash checked & in the middle of the range. The boots from the carbs to the airbox were hard & shrunk... picked up some K&N style cleaners. Bike had a Kerker 4 into 1 header & muffler. Bike fired up and would only run with the enricher pulled full out. Pulled the carbs off and cleaned them again, put in full rebuild kits. 40 idle jet & 125 main. Same needles & tubes. Carb to head mounts in great shape, everything seems to be correct... will only run with the enricher pulled out fully. Checked the fuel levels on all 4 bowls while running. Fuel height seems good. Scratchin' my head. I've been puttin' miles on my Voyager, and would really like to start wearing this KZ out again. Any thoughts out there? Sorry @ the ramble... all ideas welcome!
Rex

1982 KZ1100-A2 Shaft: Kerker 4 into 1, Vetter QuikSilver faring & bags
1996 Voyager XII
1967 HD Electra Glide
1971 Allis 314
1978 Allis 716
1982 Allis 916 w/barn made front end loader

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14 Aug 2011 09:34 #468985 by Motor Head
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Well to Redirect you, would be to search for "Pods", it is the most discussed single topic.
Those would be Mikuni BS34 CV carbs. When you slap Pods on and remove the stock AirBox, you have changed the signal to the carb dramatically. Either put the Stock Airbox back in with new connecting boots, or be willing to try to make it run with the Pods. Do a search, many opinions on this subject.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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14 Aug 2011 10:19 #468996 by roy-b-boy-b
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Are your carbs the type that has a plug on the bottom of the pilot jet? Roy

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14 Aug 2011 12:17 #469016 by dabarnguywi
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Thanks Motor Head... I had read about the pod issue, had no idea it was that dramatic. I bought some used boots (said in ex cond) from fleabay, they weren't any better than mine... do you know if the boots are available aftermarket as repo ?
Rex

1982 KZ1100-A2 Shaft: Kerker 4 into 1, Vetter QuikSilver faring & bags
1996 Voyager XII
1967 HD Electra Glide
1971 Allis 314
1978 Allis 716
1982 Allis 916 w/barn made front end loader

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14 Aug 2011 12:19 #469017 by dabarnguywi
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Hi Roy, thanks for the reply!... Yes, there are o-ringed plugs on that are inserted after the pilots are in place.
Rex

1982 KZ1100-A2 Shaft: Kerker 4 into 1, Vetter QuikSilver faring & bags
1996 Voyager XII
1967 HD Electra Glide
1971 Allis 314
1978 Allis 716
1982 Allis 916 w/barn made front end loader

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14 Aug 2011 12:29 #469019 by roy-b-boy-b
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Have you got a good seal on the plugs?

The jetting sounds good. It should run if it were getting gas through the pilots. Roy

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14 Aug 2011 12:43 #469025 by Motor Head
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dabarnguywi wrote: Thanks Motor Head... I had read about the pod issue, had no idea it was that dramatic. I bought some used boots (said in ex cond) from fleabay, they weren't any better than mine... do you know if the boots are available aftermarket as repo ?
Rex

Two things, first go to your profile, and add your model to your signature. It will help with reply's.
Z1 will have new boots for your Airbox, and intake manifolds. www.z1enterprises.com/catalog.aspx?pid=KZ1100
Choose your year and model, and off you go. they have fair prices and excellent service. Cab kits, jets, etc.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...

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14 Aug 2011 15:24 #469044 by dabarnguywi
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I went back down to the barn, took a look at a spare carb... I think I'll pull the carbs off the bike again and make sure the hole between the main jet tubes and the pilot tubes are clear...

1982 KZ1100-A2 Shaft: Kerker 4 into 1, Vetter QuikSilver faring & bags
1996 Voyager XII
1967 HD Electra Glide
1971 Allis 314
1978 Allis 716
1982 Allis 916 w/barn made front end loader

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14 Aug 2011 15:27 #469046 by dabarnguywi
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Thanks for the mention of Z1... I did buy a couple of new front caliper pistons from them... I'll check on some boots... I'd just as soon run the stock airbox and put one of the pods on my garden tractor <G>

1982 KZ1100-A2 Shaft: Kerker 4 into 1, Vetter QuikSilver faring & bags
1996 Voyager XII
1967 HD Electra Glide
1971 Allis 314
1978 Allis 716
1982 Allis 916 w/barn made front end loader

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14 Aug 2011 15:49 #469047 by dabarnguywi
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Stock boots on order...Thanks again.

1982 KZ1100-A2 Shaft: Kerker 4 into 1, Vetter QuikSilver faring & bags
1996 Voyager XII
1967 HD Electra Glide
1971 Allis 314
1978 Allis 716
1982 Allis 916 w/barn made front end loader

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14 Aug 2011 17:50 #469061 by roy-b-boy-b
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dabarnguywi wrote: I went back down to the barn, took a look at a spare carb... I think I'll pull the carbs off the bike again and make sure the hole between the main jet tubes and the pilot tubes are clear...


That was my next suggestion. Roy

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14 Aug 2011 18:47 - 14 Aug 2011 18:52 #469068 by Motor Head
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The drilling from the main jet well to the pilot is a lot larger than the small pilot and transfer circuits. Have you sprayed carb cleaner and compressed air through all the passages?
Also Air leaks at the Intake manifolds/ carb holders, are there any?
having the Pod's on there will make it quite lean. Without re-jetting, maybe just double check your manifolds and carbs while waiting for the Air Boots. It will be easier to do any trouble shooting with it stock, since the jets are. Or have you checked the jet sizes against the manual? I have a link in my signature for a pdf free download if needed.
Don't forget the Float Height, then Fuel level clear tube test. Get them all nice and even.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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