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10 Jan 2011 08:12 #421212 by MN400
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Hi guys, I haven't had a chance to take anything apart and check specs, but last summer my bike had a problem where it would warm up and idle around 1000 RPM's, and then into my ride whenever I would pull in the clutch and it would die. I didn't really know where else to post this question, and seeing as how I think it may be a carburetor problem I decided to post it here. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks:)

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10 Jan 2011 10:59 #421244 by Patton
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MN400 wrote:

Hi guys, I haven't had a chance to take anything apart and check specs, but last summer my bike had a problem where it would warm up and idle around 1000 RPM's, and then into my ride whenever I would pull in the clutch and it would die. I didn't really know where else to post this question, and seeing as how I think it may be a carburetor problem I decided to post it here. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks:)


Am guessing the bike is a 1977 KZ400.

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As to the reported problem, too tight valve clearances might be causing loss of compression as the engine warms.

If not already done, would check and assure valve clearances are set to specs.

Acceptable cold compression figures are not enough, and don't necessarily continue as the engine warms.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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10 Jan 2011 11:06 #421245 by Patton
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Another cause might be a sticking ignition timing advancer unit.

It's easily checked with a strobe type timing light, and watched moving back and forth as rpm is varied by blipping the throttle.

When the advancer is sticking, lubing alone is sometimes enough to cure it.
But might require removal for a good cleaning and lube.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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10 Jan 2011 11:10 - 10 Jan 2011 11:16 #421246 by Patton
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As to carbs, might be improperly adjusted pilot circuits and/or carbs out of sync.

Imo, carbs should be the last items addressed, after first ruling out other possible reasons.

Would first assure valve clearances to specs, and verify ignition timing, and install new spark plugs after visibly observing a fat blue spark on each plug, and then adjust carb pilot circuits and idle thumb screw position.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
Last edit: 10 Jan 2011 11:16 by Patton.

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10 Jan 2011 11:20 #421248 by Patton
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If it has a points style ignition, the contacts should be first dressed and cleaned, then the points gap set, and lastly the ignition timing adjusted. :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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10 Jan 2011 12:10 #421251 by MN400
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Oh yeah, I apologize for not mentioning the specs on the bike, but you were right on. And thanks for the info, once I get time (currently at college) I will go home and start checking specsl

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