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03 Aug 2010 16:56 #387971 by ninja11zx
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I have a 77 kz1000 that is all stock and in very nice condition. i redid the top to fix all the oil leaks. i also reringed it. went for a ride today and it won't get out of its own way. will rev to 4000 and no more. takes off fine then falls on its face. carbs are all cleaned and new kits installed. stock exhaust and air cleaner. installed a new dyna s and coils and wires. if i move the choke it while going down the road theres no change. i installed stock size jets. float levels are set a little low but i dont thing its enough to be runnung out of fuel. bike also has a pingle petcock. thanks for any help on what to look for. thanks

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03 Aug 2010 19:14 #388001 by stonemaster
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check for intake leak around carb boots

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03 Aug 2010 19:18 - 03 Aug 2010 19:22 #388002 by TeK9iNe
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OK, its not the float levels.

Make sure that the rotor (dyna s magnet), still advances and returns correctly, and that it is sufficiently lubed. Are you sure you timed dyna s correctly with light?

What were these kits you installed? You installed stock size jets, were they mikuni/keihin oem, or dynojet?

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04 Aug 2010 14:33 #388178 by ninja11zx
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ignition is right on and advancing like it should. carb kits were k&l kits with stock size jets. going out to play with it some more.

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04 Aug 2010 15:35 #388192 by Patton
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Any possibility cam timing is off a link? :unsure:

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04 Aug 2010 16:20 #388202 by baborz72
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Have you checked your' valve lash??? Intake at the beginning of the exhaust stroke, exhaust at the end of the intake stroke. then, whatever spec is...probably .008 intake .012 exhaust. Just guessing.

It'll go...or...It'll blow!

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04 Aug 2010 17:20 #388218 by ninja11zx
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thought of cam timing, it is correct. head was just shimmed. plugs were black after a 1/2 mile ride. since i installed stock jet sizes i checked the needles and there on #4 groove(from the top. i am dropping thenm to #2 groove. now the question. looks like the spring and shims might be in the wrong place. there is a thin plastic shim under the clip and a thick plastic shim on top of the shim. the spring is under the clip so its pushing the needle up. shouldn't the spring be on the top pushing the needle down? carb parts diagram dont show the small parts. thanks

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05 Aug 2010 18:03 #388469 by ninja11zx
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bike is getting better. now lays down around 6000. if i ride steadt 4000/ 5000 rpm it starts surging. it has the needles set in the center groove and 107,5 mains in it. anyone have a good setup? thanks

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07 Aug 2010 18:17 - 07 Aug 2010 18:19 #389091 by TeK9iNe
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Stock airbox/filter and exhaust...

Stock jetting should be close to perfect.

15 or 17.5 pilot will work air/mixture screw adjustment.
107.5 Main is fine.

Your needle clip position is middle/#3 stock,
assembled in this order:


With this setup it should pull fairly hard right to WOT/high speed/rpm.

May as well check the fuel levels anyway, but it sounds to me like an assembly or ignition issue.

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81 Kawie Z1000 CSR
83 Honda VT750C A
85 Kawie GPZ900 A2
86 Zukie GS1150 EG
93 Yamie XV1100 E
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08 Aug 2010 11:00 #389333 by ninja11zx
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running pretty good, there is a stumble at 4000 rpm. when crusing and accelerate its real lazy. going to play with the needles. jets are 17.5 and 105 main. fuel levels are ok.

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