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21 Jun 2010 15:50 #377333 by Kingchiefa
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My bike bogs down when reaching 4K rpm and continues through 6K. What would cause this and how do I fix it?

1979 KZ1000 ltd b3 Currently in Troy, PA. Hope to some of you on the road.

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21 Jun 2010 16:39 #377349 by anarki650
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What's your set up? Air box or pods? Exhaust? Jetting? Could be a lean condition, but could be a lot of other things too. Need more info...

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21 Jun 2010 17:56 #377377 by bountyhunter
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Mine would do that when the needles were adjusted too rich.

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21 Jun 2010 19:09 #377413 by Kingchiefa
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pods, 4 to 1 straight vance and hines. It is running rich, jets at lowest setting. Removed #3 air pod and the bog went from 4-6 to 4-4800. Carbs being cleaned now. But I want to make damn sure that replacing the air pods afterward will help the problem.

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21 Jun 2010 20:07 #377439 by anarki650
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Would raise the needle a step and see if that fixes your woes.

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21 Jun 2010 20:09 #377440 by Old Man Rock
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Carbs in sync?

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MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
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21 Jun 2010 20:39 #377448 by otakar
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A bog in this range would usually indicate too lean on the needles. A stutter would indicate too rich in the needles.

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21 Jun 2010 21:08 #377456 by Patton
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Kingchiefa wrote:

My bike bogs down when reaching 4K rpm and continues through 6K. What would cause this and how do I fix it?


While riding, could add a little choke during the bog to determine whether performance improves, or worsens, or stays the same.

May aid diagnosis.

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22 Jun 2010 04:19 - 22 Jun 2010 04:22 #377483 by Old Man Rock
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Well before anything, perform/confirm carbs are in sync...

Bogs or falls flat on it's face?
Falls flat then too lean...

A method Larry taught me is during a ride, rev it up to 5/6 grand and hold it steady in 5th gear, does she run smooth smooth or sputter/oscillates as if running out of gas/clogged fuel line "henceforth fall flat on face" etc...?

Also, same scenario, let go of the throttle, let her snap shut, does she back fire, pop out the exhaust?

If either of the above holds true, too lean change to a richer clip position if optional on your setup or richer needle.

As Patton mentioned, pull the choke on a tad, she runs better then yup, too lean...

Plug conditions would also provide you some insight to running conditions...

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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22 Jun 2010 16:10 #377606 by Kingchiefa
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Old Man Rock wrote:

Carbs in sync?


Yeah carbs are sync'd perfectly.

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22 Jun 2010 16:12 #377608 by Kingchiefa
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anarki650 wrote:

Would raise the needle a step and see if that fixes your woes.


Why would you raise the needle a step? Wouldn't that create a richer mixture?

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22 Jun 2010 16:24 #377611 by Kingchiefa
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otakar wrote:

A bog in this range would usually indicate too lean on the needles. A stutter would indicate too rich in the needles.


it is a stutter not a bog... My bad guys.

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