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22 Dec 2009 15:04 #340304 by fordtruck
Can't decide what carbs to use was created by fordtruck
I'm getting ready to put a 1075 kit in my 77 KZ1000 and I'm going nuts trying to decide what to do about carbs. I have VM26's on now. Here's a list of mods that will be done:

1075 10.5:1 pistons
Head rebuilt and probably mild port job
V&H megaphone with baffle
Air Pods
Dyna S with green coils

I won't be able to afford smoothbores. I'm torn between BS34's and VM28's. I had planned on running the stock VM26's for a while, but I may be able to squeeze enough money out for a different set. Can someone help me make up my mind? This bike won't be on the strip, I just want a strong street bike.

Thanks

'77 KZ1000-MTC 1075 kit. Stage 1 port

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22 Dec 2009 16:15 #340308 by TeK9iNe
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Go with the BS34s' for sure!
That motor/setup can handle them easily.

Cheers.

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22 Dec 2009 16:25 #340309 by roy-b-boy-b
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34's are goung cheap on eBay.

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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22 Dec 2009 17:08 #340315 by keith1
Replied by keith1 on topic Can't decide what carbs to use
while smoothbores are the shit, if it comes down to a choice between bs34 and vm 28, you ll get a lot more out of the bs34's........what kind of petcock are you using?..i had slight fitment issues with the pingle double outlet and the bs tops with the 78 ltd tank......

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22 Dec 2009 17:15 #340316 by fordtruck
Replied by fordtruck on topic Can't decide what carbs to use
Keith1,

I'm using a single outlet chrome petcock that I got from Z1E. It's not a pingle. It was an inexpensive one, but has worked fine for me.

I've read about problems with using BS34's with pods. Have you guys had any trouble? Also, what jets would you recommend?

'77 KZ1000-MTC 1075 kit. Stage 1 port

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22 Dec 2009 17:39 #340318 by keith1
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fordtruck wrote:

Keith1,

I'm using a single outlet chrome petcock that I got from Z1E. It's not a pingle. It was an inexpensive one, but has worked fine for me.

I've read about problems with using BS34's with pods. Have you guys had any trouble? Also, what jets would you recommend?



if its a single outlet, you can probably turn it to avoid any problems if need be.....40/140 is a good place to start.....some people have had problems with pods and bs34's.....i had a high rpm stutter if i really whacked it.....ask otaker and buda.......they can give you a lot of insight as to running these carbs ....roy ran a set also...if you dont want to mod the bs34's, a nice clean set of 28 vm series jetted properly would get you in the ballpark.....i would venture 20 pilots and 120 main, needle 4th clipped would nt be bad.....just my .02...i m sure the more knowledgable will chime in as some already have.......

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22 Dec 2009 19:26 #340340 by kawsakiman
Replied by kawsakiman on topic Can't decide what carbs to use
if you can' afford the 34 flatslides for right now, i would go with the 28's.
a lot of people really like the 34's but i like the instant throttle responce you get from the vm series carbs better.
when you might just be crusing along @ 60 mph with 34's, you have to downshift to get the venturies to open up.
they are vacuum operated.

this is just my opinion so it really don't mean anything.
i just like when i goose the throttle, my bike respondes.
i have vm's on my 650 and 34's on the 1100.

to each his own.
if i could get a set of 28's to fit the 1100 and the stock airbox, i would change them out in a second.

someday i will be able to afford my kz habit.

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22 Dec 2009 19:44 #340344 by Old Man Rock
Replied by Old Man Rock on topic Can't decide what carbs to use
I'm with Steve on this one, 28's over the 34's...

Reasoning, unless mid range to WOT, the 34's won't respond at lower ranges like the 28's will...

Now, if your going to pay for carbs, let's say ~ $500 then save another $200 and go with the Keihin 29 or 31mm CR Specials... ;)

From two different reliable sources, pending your riding style, 1075cc/performance cams/valve P&P or smaller go with the 29mm setup... 31mm maybe in your build but anything larger, why bother.

Low to Mid blows you away.... Pulls like a mo-foe.... Hell, nearly pulls me off the seat... It's crazy I tell ya....

Are they expensive, yes indeed but.... New technology, phenomenal performance, easy to jet... so you get what you pay for....

Just my worthless 2 cents worth....

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
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23 Dec 2009 08:56 #340396 by fordtruck
Replied by fordtruck on topic Can't decide what carbs to use
Thanks guys for all your advice. Since this is a street bike, I would say that low-to-mid range performance will be more important than high rpm power. I think I will keep an eye out for a good set of VM28's.

If I go with the 28's, should I get ones with accelerator pumps or without?

'77 KZ1000-MTC 1075 kit. Stage 1 port

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23 Dec 2009 09:12 #340399 by roy-b-boy-b
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If you find a set of 28's without a pump they are going to cost you some big bucks.

I use 28's with pumps. I just remove the pump and use 26mm bowls. Roy

1979 LTD Street Fighter.1977 KZ1000

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23 Dec 2009 14:46 #340421 by fordtruck
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roy-b-boy-b wrote:

If you find a set of 28's without a pump they are going to cost you some big bucks.

I use 28's with pumps. I just remove the pump and use 26mm bowls. Roy


Is it better to run the 28's without the pumps? If so, do I just removed the pump and swap my VM26 bowls over to the 28's?

'77 KZ1000-MTC 1075 kit. Stage 1 port

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23 Dec 2009 15:17 #340423 by timebomb33
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i'm going to tease you then i have a set of 28's without pumps from a z1-r.

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