need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.

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08 Aug 2009 17:04 #312478 by ndeli55
I am having troubles getting my bike timed and tuned. It was running really well just rich, until last night when it seemed to have lost 2 cylinders. This happened before, but it came back, and I assumed it was just fuel starvation. This morning It would not start and just coughed and burbled. I tried to clean, dress, and reset the points, and it never has been the same. I did put in 100 jets,(running stock airbox) 105's were in there before and it was really rich. It is a little better but less responsive on the low end, and little power on the top. I am at a loss, and was wondering if there were any locals that could help a brotha out.

1978 kz650B stock
1973 rd250 (in 1000 pieces)

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08 Aug 2009 17:09 #312481 by Kawickrice
Replied by Kawickrice on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
What kinda bike ya got?

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
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Long Gone
75 Suzuki GT550
74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
Tampa FL

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08 Aug 2009 18:08 #312497 by ndeli55
Replied by ndeli55 on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
78 kz650B no mods. I cant figure out how to add a signature.

1978 kz650B stock
1973 rd250 (in 1000 pieces)

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08 Aug 2009 18:38 #312501 by TerryK
Replied by TerryK on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
Probably fouled a couple plugs since you said it was running rich. Why it was running rich is another thing.
I would ditch the points and go with Dyna S ignition.

1977 KZ1000
GSXR swingarm and rear brake
WM6 rear Akront rim
Wiseco 1075c pistons
33 smoothbores
stage 3 Web Cams
Head porting
Dyna S ignition
Lockhart oil cooler
Wiseco header



1980 Z1R drag bike
1200cc
38 Flatslides, .
500' cams
7" slick
Dyan 4000 SP ignition
etc

Ontario, Canada

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08 Aug 2009 18:41 #312503 by ndeli55
Replied by ndeli55 on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
I actually just ordered a dyna S. I had 105s and that was making it run rich, I dropped down to 100's because I had them around, I think it has helped, I am just hoping I am not too lean now.

1978 kz650B stock
1973 rd250 (in 1000 pieces)

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08 Aug 2009 19:03 - 08 Aug 2009 19:04 #312516 by Patton
Replied by Patton on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
Am thinking fuel starvation issue would cause lean condition (not sooty-plug rich).

Would check float bowl fuel levels, using the clear plastic tube test.
Even in otherwise perfect carbs, too high = rich, and too low = lean.

Good Luck! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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11 Aug 2009 21:59 #313293 by ndeli55
Replied by ndeli55 on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
ok checked the voltage to the coil, and it was a wopping 10.84v. Guessing thats not going to do. I am in the process of repowering the coils, via the wired george method. Also checked battery voltage and it sat at 13v. I think I have tracked down at least one problem...

1978 kz650B stock
1973 rd250 (in 1000 pieces)

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12 Aug 2009 06:41 - 12 Aug 2009 06:43 #313337 by bill_wilcox100
Replied by bill_wilcox100 on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
Had the same symptoms when I first got my `77 B1

IMHO, sounds as if you are on the right track.

This is how I implemented the WG Coil Repowering mod on my B1.

Link1 , Link2

Hope this is useful.

Best of success. :)
Bill

1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
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12 Aug 2009 07:05 #313343 by Splandman
Replied by Splandman on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
If you need a reputable shop in OKC try Chris Wedman over at Wedman Motorsports. He's honest and reasonable.

9005 NW 10th Street, OKC

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12 Aug 2009 20:17 #313513 by ndeli55
Replied by ndeli55 on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
I may use him. My uncle is actually an acclaimed mechanic here locally too. Gary Drummond, and I think he works around the same area.

1978 kz650B stock
1973 rd250 (in 1000 pieces)

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12 Aug 2009 20:19 #313515 by ndeli55
Replied by ndeli55 on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
bill I think this will help too. You da wiring man! I am coming straight of the battery for my power source with an inline fuse to make sure I am getting full voltage. Later I may change to a blade type fuze box.

1978 kz650B stock
1973 rd250 (in 1000 pieces)

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14 Aug 2009 20:45 #314004 by ndeli55
Replied by ndeli55 on topic need timing and carb help in OKC, OK area.
its amazing what a new ignition system will do. I repowered the coils, and installed a dyna s. I was running dark black and sooty plugs before,now with the same set up my plugs are completely white.

I think its the right direction, I have 102.5s to through in there tomorrow.

1978 kz650B stock
1973 rd250 (in 1000 pieces)

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