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So where does everything go?
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Good Luck!
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\'74 Z1-A, Bought new, worn out 3 times, being ridden now
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But to each his own, and I admire 650ed's ability and success in accomplishing this without removing the carbs.
Meanwhile, fresh inline fuel filters installed before ever letting any fuel whatsoever enter freshly cleaned carbs has gone a long way toward keeping the floatvalves clean and functioning properly for the long run.
Am having no difficulty accessing the main jets through 17mm drainplug on smoothbores.
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And find it much easier to deal with the throttle cable attachments by doing them while the carbs are almost in position but still slightly out toward the right side of bike before final alignment to be pushed back into the carb holders. Otherwise, the throttle attachments are more difficult to access, adjust and tighten.
I apply a dab of silicone or Armoral to inside of carb holders and around outsides of carbs which allows carbs to readily squish into the carb holders without drama. And also use a wooden stake for leverage behind the carbs when pushing then into the holders. Makes reassembly of carbs onto the engine so quick and easy.
Good Luck with whatever technique of choice!
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OK, now I understand the issue. I gave up using a short screwdriver for that very reason. I should have mentioned how I get to the screws. (see picture) Also, I use a regular size compact mirror (from my wife, honest) to see under the carbs.
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What headache? To drop a bowl you simply remove 4 screws. You must be kidding if you think removing the carbs is easier than that when you will STILL need to remove the same 4 screws. I've done this many times and I've removed the carbs several times for other reasons, and believe me, removing the 4 screws is easier no matter how pliable the boots are because you don't need to play with the throttle cables or anything other than the 4 screws. Ed
Like I said, I'd rather remove the rack which I can do in two minutes. Work on the carbs on my bench instead of upside down under a bike. I'm not kidding at all. To each their own but checking the seat and float seems to me to be a whole lot easier. Maybe if I had a lift table but I don't think so. I can do the throttle cables with hemostats in about 30 seconds. I'd also rather use my eyeballs than a compact mirror to see. I'm not in a race anyway and I'd rather do them once. If you are comfortable doing it upside down, with mirrors, have at it, I also admire your ability.
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The hemostats, curved needlenoses, and mirror would have saved me hours in my first carb removal/assembly. I should have washed out my bone dry fuel tank and put a fuel filter on before starting the bike.
I'm off to get the fuel filter on before I do anything. Then I'll try the seafoam while rapping on the carb bowls.
Then I'll try the on-bike float removal. But something inside me knows I'll wind up removing the carbs again.
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I also remove the rear clamps entirely to get them out of the way. Hasn't harmed them so far to be opened wide enough to remove them, and later replace them after the airbox hoses are in position onto the carbs.
When reinstalling, may position the two inside rear clamps with screws on top for easier access next time.
Remember while carbs are on the bench to assure correct fuel level in float bowls, using the clear tube test, and adjust float tabs as might be necessary to accomplish this. Hold carbs stationary and level during this test. I just use short lengths of 2x4's. Others use a more elaborate bench carb mount system.
Tip -- only need one single float bowl screw to hold things together while performing the clear tube test, as this saves time when possibly several removal/reinstall cycles are needed. The gasket won't leak much if at all, and any slight leakage won't invalidate the test.
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my guess is that either, my fuel line is pinched somewhere, or/and I need to get the carbs synched.
Thanks for the warning though. Leaky carbs and the fear of fire is why I switched the carbs out in the first place.
Couldn't have done it w/o assistance from the members of this forum.
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