won't idle down sometimes

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30 Dec 2008 07:25 #255349 by riverroad
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Hope everybody had a great holiday.
Took my bike out for the first time in months yesterday and not all the time, but sometimes the thing wants to rev with the throttles closed. I checked to make sure it isn't the cable or linkage by feeling the cable wheel thingy while operating the throttle. The linkage closes all the butterflies (as best as I can tell), but sometimes she'll keep revving. But most times it operates normally. So unless I have a vacuum leak that only leaks sometimes, I don't know what this is.
Anybvody know off hand?
Anyway in the mean time, the temp here is supposed to climb into the low sixties and the sky is blue, so, I'M OUTTA HERE!:woohoo:

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30 Dec 2008 23:54 #255486 by renobruce
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A hanging idle is a classic sign of an intake leak. Check your intake boots and your airbox boots (if you have an airbox). The reason it only happens sometimes could be relative to the temperature of the bike. Often times it happens more when the bike is warmed up good.

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31 Dec 2008 05:03 #255493 by riverroad
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Well I just put brand new boots on last year. I suppose one might've loosened up a bit. I'll retorque thewm all.
But I rode all day yesterday and it only did it once less than a mile from my house. Rode 120 miles and it never happenmed again. May be that temp is an issue, but opposite in that the leak somehow closed up as the motor warmed up.

Anyway, met a guy in a bar with a brand new Harley clone. Think he said he has bg inch Ulima". He spied my bike and asked about it. He's never heard of a KZ1000.
In short, we went for a blast up the river road.
Now he knows what a KZ1000 is.:laugh: :laugh:

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31 Dec 2008 05:27 #255494 by wiredgeorge
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An 80 KZ1000 with throttle butterflies? Are these BS34s or are they the stock VM28?

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31 Dec 2008 05:43 #255498 by sbulla
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riverroad wrote:

Took my bike out for the first time in months yesterday and not all the time, but sometimes the thing wants to rev with the throttles closed


Not sure if your problem is like what I had but, the cure for mine was the mechanical advancer. Check it to see if it's gunked up. I cleaned mine and re-lubed it and all is well now.

Good Luck,
Sonny

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1980 KZ1000 LTD (Kerker 4-1, K&N pods, Dyna gray coils)


Gone but not forgotten----
1966 Honda 305 Superhawk
1969 HD 350 Sprint
1971 500 H1
1972 250 F8
1972 750 H2
1973 KX250
1995 HD Sportster 1200
2000 HD Softail
2002 KLR650

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31 Dec 2008 06:41 #255506 by riverroad
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George, I was wrong when I referred to them as butterflies.
They're the stock VM28 slides.
Sbula, I just cleaned up my advancer last year. Maybe I oughta have another look at it. Thanks.
But as thew temp just dropped to twenty degrees this morning, I think I'll wait on that a while.

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31 Dec 2008 07:07 #255511 by arai59
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My guess would be air leak or throttle cable binding.

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31 Dec 2008 10:19 #255535 by KawiConvert
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Mine did it with a binding throttle cable. When I got the return installed and set right it went away. Thats what I get for altering cables myself instead of taking the hit and ordering the custom ones.

You might try adjusting the slack so as to give the return a little more pull and that may allow the throttle to pull them closed. Just as an idea.

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01 Jan 2009 07:20 #255645 by riverroad
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Thanks guys but it ain't the cables. I can reach under the tank and feel that the throttles are closed while it revs.
In any case, it's not doing it anymore.

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07 Jan 2009 01:31 #256526 by snorules
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Do you still have the smog control on it? I could not for the world of me figure out what was causing me the same problems last year. I had removed the smog control and put a chunk of cheap auto heater hose between the 2 ports. I was sitting at work having a cig one day, when I just happened to look at my bike. The hose was split all the way almost, but on the inside, so it was hard to see. I went to the local advanced auto, and the guy gave me a couple of large vacuum caps that he just happened to have left out of an open package. Problem fixed, bike ran like a charm after that.

1980 KZ550C (daily rider)
1981 KZ1000J (bagger project in progress)
1981 GS1100 (future dragbike)
1978 Z1R (not mine yet, but trying to work out a deal to acquire it).

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09 Feb 2009 20:58 #263453 by jmods62
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Hi, when i got my kz i found the carbs were not kinked together in the middle. the carbs are paired left and right and the link in the center is mechanicaly connected in one direction and spring returned in the opposite. they didn't time the shafts right, and that allowed one pair of carbs throttles to move freely (a small amount) because the link was stuck in the spring. if you had carb work recently i would have that checked. joe

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