air screw adjustment
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air screw adjustment
02 Feb 2006 19:51
Ok so im getting close to firing up my kz650 c1 (1977). Now the carbs have been broken down, cleaned and rebuilt. They look nice, i just need to know where to set my air screw. The manual says 1 and 1/8 turn from seated; however that is listed for a different style of carb that apperently has the air screw inside the float bowl. Mine is loacted abouve the float bowl and is easily accessable when the carb is mounted.
So where do i set this bad boy? Im sooo close to making this beast fire (then i just need to deal with the suspension, breaks, and stearing :blink: )
So where do i set this bad boy? Im sooo close to making this beast fire (then i just need to deal with the suspension, breaks, and stearing :blink: )
1977 kz650 c1
bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.
bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.
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Re: air screw adjustment
02 Feb 2006 20:25
try 1 1/4-1 1/2 should be a good starting point! goodluck,happy wrenching!
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Re: air screw adjustment
02 Feb 2006 20:34
From seated (screwed all the way in then backed out that far) or from the first thread?
Thanks for the help.
im espacally worried, because it will be the first time i run this size motor (i have worked on old international tractors before, but they are a bit different) and i wont know if its running just right when i fire it up. I fear i may run it way to lean and cause a motor meltdown....
Thanks for the help.
im espacally worried, because it will be the first time i run this size motor (i have worked on old international tractors before, but they are a bit different) and i wont know if its running just right when i fire it up. I fear i may run it way to lean and cause a motor meltdown....
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bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.
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Re: air screw adjustment
02 Feb 2006 21:36
lightly seated, you don't want to break the tip off
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Re: air screw adjustment
03 Feb 2006 05:31
good point,gotta use a little common sense on that one!does it have a spring under it? :whistle:
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Re: air screw adjustment
03 Feb 2006 19:36
Once you do get it running, shut the lights off in the garage after a minute or 2. I only noticed in the dim light that I was too lean as #1 pipe was turning red.
Early congrats on getting it running, its a great feeling.
Early congrats on getting it running, its a great feeling.
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Re: air screw adjustment
04 Feb 2006 17:03
Yeah there must be springs under the adjustment screws, i could feel them bind as i was seating the screws.
Well i still have to chance the oil, plugs, throttle cables, charge the battery, and make up some kind of temp gas tank to feed the girl. Hopefully she will breath some fire and wake up!!
Thanks for the tip with the lights. How hot is to hot? I have a lazer thermometer so it would be easy to check.
Well i still have to chance the oil, plugs, throttle cables, charge the battery, and make up some kind of temp gas tank to feed the girl. Hopefully she will breath some fire and wake up!!
Thanks for the tip with the lights. How hot is to hot? I have a lazer thermometer so it would be easy to check.
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Re: air screw adjustment
04 Feb 2006 17:55
Sheeesh I will try to answer before you ask again
Hopefully someone else will know a good operating temp. I just kind of freaked when I saw mine glowing (thought, this is cool looking, but it cant be right), but I dont know what temp they were at.
Hopefully someone else will know a good operating temp. I just kind of freaked when I saw mine glowing (thought, this is cool looking, but it cant be right), but I dont know what temp they were at.
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04 Feb 2006 22:14
I don't know either, but can say an infrered thermometer cannot be used on chrome exhausts. If you do, you'll just reflect and measure ambiant air temp.
DanOz7Five0 wrote:
DanOz7Five0 wrote:
Sheeesh I will try to answer before you ask again
Hopefully someone else will know a good operating temp. I just kind of freaked when I saw mine glowing (thought, this is cool looking, but it cant be right), but I dont know what temp they were at.
321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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Re: air screw adjustment
04 Feb 2006 23:36but can say an infrered thermometer cannot be used on chrome exhausts. If you do, you'll just reflect and measure ambiant air temp.
Hmm, I'd argue that point, about not being able to use an IFR thermometer. I've tried mine and it seems to work, may not be 'xactly right though . If you're thinking about the red laser dot, that's just to show you where you are looking. the Thermometer is reading the radiated infrared from the pipes.
I have a hard time getting a repeatable reading, but i think thats because of the shape of the pipes and I have to make sure I read at about the same spot on each pipe, the hottest is at the sharp downward bend. I tried the IFR Thermometer just after starting the bike, and letting it warm up, the first time 1,2,&3 were reading around 260-280or so, and 4 was at 180.
after rebuild all are reading about 220 to 240. It seems low, but I was more interested in the difference between the pipes rather than the exat temp.
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Re: air screw adjustment
05 Feb 2006 12:47
well i know i dont have any worries about stuff reflecting off my pipes the rust and gunk will make sure of that!
I have never really trusted the temps i got off it; but they always seem to be in the ballpark of what i need.
Well if they glow in the dark i will know there is a serious issue.
Now the manuel says to turn them one full turn in either direction and listen for the motor reving to set the air screws. Will the motor rev high and sound better if it is lean enough to cause issues? Basically im asking if i follow the clymer manuels instructions could i be setting myself up for motor meltdown??
And final question, how sensitive are the choke seals, i have one that looks shot, but im wondering if i can get away with if for the time being, as i would not like to break the carbs down that far.
I have never really trusted the temps i got off it; but they always seem to be in the ballpark of what i need.
Well if they glow in the dark i will know there is a serious issue.
Now the manuel says to turn them one full turn in either direction and listen for the motor reving to set the air screws. Will the motor rev high and sound better if it is lean enough to cause issues? Basically im asking if i follow the clymer manuels instructions could i be setting myself up for motor meltdown??
And final question, how sensitive are the choke seals, i have one that looks shot, but im wondering if i can get away with if for the time being, as i would not like to break the carbs down that far.
1977 kz650 c1
bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.
bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.
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