carb tuning question... kinda simple
- Kingcobra
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 86
- Thanks: 0
carb tuning question... kinda simple
18 Feb 2008 07:04
ok... so I've been tinkering with main jets lately cause my bike has 4 open pipes and stacks w no filters on the carbs... bike cranks, runs great all over town... awesome power, no weirdness, but get in the highway and she starts sputtering and falling off at higher speeds... pull the choke up about 3/4 the way and she pulls hard and rolls along. I'm assuming this means it's runnin lean at high rpms? what is the fix? any help is much appreciated. thanks
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Bluemeanie
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 2519
- Thanks: 14
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
18 Feb 2008 07:43
Your running lean, main jets need to be increased, especially with 4 open pipes and wide open carbs.
1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kingcobra
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 86
- Thanks: 0
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
18 Feb 2008 09:37
anyone with a ballpark idea of what size mains I should be running?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- bountyhunter
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 7246
- Thanks: 337
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 09:53
Kingcobra wrote:
You did not say what mains you are running now. I would guess you need to go up about 2 or 3 sizes if it is running as lean as you say it is.
anyone with a ballpark idea of what size mains I should be running?
You did not say what mains you are running now. I would guess you need to go up about 2 or 3 sizes if it is running as lean as you say it is.
1979 KZ-750 Twin
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kingcobra
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 86
- Thanks: 0
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 15:22
it has 102's in it now... it HAD 98's in it stock. pulled a plug the other day to get a reading and they are black and sooty with tan insulator if this helps.
Post edited by: Kingcobra, at: 2008/02/19 18:24
Post edited by: Kingcobra, at: 2008/02/19 18:24
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Bluemeanie
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 2519
- Thanks: 14
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 15:27
If we're talking about a 650 I'de be tempted to think of about 110's as a good starting point?, along with 17.5 pilots. Also with black sooty plugs I would recommened the WG coil mod.
Post edited by: Bluemeanie, at: 2008/02/19 18:28
Post edited by: Bluemeanie, at: 2008/02/19 18:28
1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kingcobra
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 86
- Thanks: 0
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Qdude
- Offline
- User
- It is all good.
- Posts: 650
- Thanks: 1
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 16:36
It is an addition of a simple Shuck's/Napa automotive relay to your existing ignition system. WG refers to wiredgeorge, a very knowledgeable KZrider member.
A more apt member will be able to get you a link to the post which has the schematic that will show you how to easily add the relay to your bike. It boosts the spark plug power which tends to help solve weak spark problems.
A more apt member will be able to get you a link to the post which has the schematic that will show you how to easily add the relay to your bike. It boosts the spark plug power which tends to help solve weak spark problems.
77 KZ 650 C1.
77 KZ 650 C1.
Crashed-Repaired, Pods, Kerker pipe, re-wired core bundle, lamp upgraded, homemade rectifier, solid state regulator , Dyna-s ignition, repainted, slightly modified, year-round commuter
Honda Metro 85 mpg Scooter. Dont laugh I will throw it at you
77 KZ 650 C1.
Crashed-Repaired, Pods, Kerker pipe, re-wired core bundle, lamp upgraded, homemade rectifier, solid state regulator , Dyna-s ignition, repainted, slightly modified, year-round commuter
Honda Metro 85 mpg Scooter. Dont laugh I will throw it at you
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kingcobra
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 86
- Thanks: 0
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 16:46
well my bike already has accel coils, 8.8 wires and I just added the dyna ignition last weekend... do I still need this mod?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Bluemeanie
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 2519
- Thanks: 14
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 17:07
I added Andrews coils, Acell wires, and a Dyna s ign also. I did the WG coil mod and noticed no real difference but many other people have noticed a huge difference. But I know now that I have a very healthy 12 volts to my coils so with my current ign system I could melt spark plugs! I provided a link below but basically it costs about $20 (unless your a mech and have acess to "free" stuff) read the article and see what you think, almost all of us have done it.
P.S. If you used the blue connector with the Dyna, get rid of it and solder that connection! A few people here including my self started haveing a bad misfire after installing the Dyns S, WG tracked it down to a bad connection with the blue connector. Remove it and solder that connection! No problems since.
WG's Coil Mod
Post edited by: Bluemeanie, at: 2008/02/19 20:14
P.S. If you used the blue connector with the Dyna, get rid of it and solder that connection! A few people here including my self started haveing a bad misfire after installing the Dyns S, WG tracked it down to a bad connection with the blue connector. Remove it and solder that connection! No problems since.
WG's Coil Mod
Post edited by: Bluemeanie, at: 2008/02/19 20:14
1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kingcobra
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 86
- Thanks: 0
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 17:36
I hardwired and soldered all of mine thx for the tip tho! I'll check into the mod
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kingcobra
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 86
- Thanks: 0
Re: carb tuning question... kinda simple
19 Feb 2008 17:40
I just checked it out... I don't think mine has a problem w coil power... I made an all new custom wiring harness for this bike... I'm good to go there
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.