WOW What a difference! (Jetting)

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16 Feb 2008 14:25 #194974 by ran429
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I just installed the #70 primary main jets to go along with the #140 Secondary mains i put in a couple weeks ago.

While the bike ran well with the stock primary jets (#62) it still took forever to warm up and idle on its own.
Today i installed the 70's and reassembled the bike, I let the fuel get primed into the carbs for a minut then started it.
I immediately noticed that shortly after starting it I now need to plunk the Choke handle to the almost off position or it will choke out.

I am very happy with the new jets and took a video of it going through the RPM ranges. I am satisfied at how it does so with ZERO flat spots!

Thank You WiredGeorge for the insight on Jet sizes and carb adjustments and Thank You Z1 Enterprises for having a great Business and Services.

Video shortly.

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16 Feb 2008 15:17 #194985 by ran429
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Here you guy's go.

Its clear that the bike runs so much better, i let it cool awhile with a fan blowing on it, i noticed that the idle is really low at 1K until a couple minutes after i start it, isnt it supposed to be at 2.5K?

I just turn it up a bit until its a t operating temp and then manually turn it back to 1.5K and its all good.

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16 Feb 2008 16:29 #195000 by ran429
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the initial test ride up the hill went very nice and smooth.
Only went to 40 (posted limit) and cant believe what a difference a couple holes can make.

First time i have ridden the bike with it running smooth, cant wait to hit the freeway onramp and see whats "Really Goin on!" lol! :whistle:

I wish i lived in an area that has 75Mph interstates like back east to down south and southwest on my drive from Chicago to Arizona.

I would like to see how it runs at speeds now lol!

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16 Feb 2008 16:39 #195002 by dannyg40
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Warm idle speed on all 4's are generaly around 1K. + or - 100 RPM.

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16 Feb 2008 17:21 #195007 by ran429
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dannyg40 wrote:

Warm idle speed on all 4's are generaly around 1K. + or - 100 RPM.

if i run it at that then the starter clutch makes too much noise for me, with it at 1.5 i cant really hear anything and it seems to me to be running better than it ever has.

Havent heard anything of running it at 1K as a standard really.

EDIT: I just checked my Manual and it calls for 10 degrees top dead center at idle of 1050rpm. so its set proper.

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16 Feb 2008 19:41 #195021 by Bluemeanie
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Hey ran, your idle is set at 1.5 but manual says 1050? That's a 450rpm difference, how is it set proper? :) As danny says most standards idle at about 1000rpm +/- If it makes noise at 1000 +/- you might be hearing your timing chain because of looseness, carbs not synced, etc. Glad you finally got it running smooth. Run it out to a back road and let her rip!!

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16 Feb 2008 20:23 #195030 by ran429
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Bluemeanie wrote:

Hey ran, your idle is set at 1.5 but manual says 1050? That's a 450rpm difference, how is it set proper? :) As danny says most standards idle at about 1000rpm +/- If it makes noise at 1000 +/- you might be hearing your timing chain because of looseness, carbs not synced, etc. Glad you finally got it running smooth. Run it out to a back road and let her rip!!


its at 1.5, right in the middle of 1K and 2K that was a typo.

see video and you will see where it runs. if it goes any lower the bike wont run correct no matter what i do to it.

If i have it running at 1050 RPM's & 10-deg b4 TDC it wont run quiet due to the stupid worn starter clutch noise.

Maybe i should roll it off a hill and buy a brand new bike instead.
I will if i cant get the motor running where its supposed to.

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17 Feb 2008 09:16 #195112 by jmargrav
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Hey, that’s great to here, I will have to reorder some jets similar to the setup you have. It just kills me that I is too cold to work on or ride my bike, I am so jealous that you can.:P

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17 Feb 2008 09:18 #195114 by Bluemeanie
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I know where your coming from, I have mine idling at about 1200/1300rpm's. :)

1980 KZ650F1, Bought new out the door for $2,162.98!

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19 Feb 2008 18:27 #195688 by Saki Jockey
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Wow, that thing is viscious the way it attacks the redline.

I like it, I like it a lot.

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