Octane Confusion
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Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 10:49
Hello,
What is the difference between the R+M/2 and RON? Manufacturers always seems to give two different octane ratings when recommending fuel types. So which one are you supposed to follow? RON always seems higher than R+M/2. What does RON mean? Research Octane Number?? And what is that supposed to mean as opposed to R+M/2?
Post edited by: onanysunday, at: 2007/09/24 13:52
What is the difference between the R+M/2 and RON? Manufacturers always seems to give two different octane ratings when recommending fuel types. So which one are you supposed to follow? RON always seems higher than R+M/2. What does RON mean? Research Octane Number?? And what is that supposed to mean as opposed to R+M/2?
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 11:40
RON is the theoretical octane value, based on the ingredients that went into the gasoline. RON is the R in (R+M)/2.
MON (Measured Octane Number) is the actual measured octane value of the gasoline.
The average of MON and RON is what you see posted on the gas pump.
As payment for my help, you are now required to go listen to the CD "Octane" by the band Spock's Beard.
MON (Measured Octane Number) is the actual measured octane value of the gasoline.
The average of MON and RON is what you see posted on the gas pump.
As payment for my help, you are now required to go listen to the CD "Octane" by the band Spock's Beard.
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 11:48
Nice explanation, tj.
Although I'm starting to believe that all three pumps are being fed by the same big tank in the ground. It'd be a hoot to show up at the pump with one's own personal octane tester. Wonder how close to the advertised octane it really is?
Although I'm starting to believe that all three pumps are being fed by the same big tank in the ground. It'd be a hoot to show up at the pump with one's own personal octane tester. Wonder how close to the advertised octane it really is?
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 13:58
So, for example..A manufacturer writes something like "recommended fuel is 87 (AKI), 91 RON"
Which one to believe? Which one to use?
Also, Why don't they measure the fuel according to the 'actual' MON only, and not by the 'theoretical' RON? This doesn't make sense. Who cares what octane rating its supposed to have in a laboratory? It seems to me all that matters is what is directly measurable when the gas is actually pumped into your tank. Gentlemen, My question is twofold:
1.)Who makes these rules?
2.)Are they on crack?
Post edited by: onanysunday, at: 2007/09/24 18:07
Which one to believe? Which one to use?
Also, Why don't they measure the fuel according to the 'actual' MON only, and not by the 'theoretical' RON? This doesn't make sense. Who cares what octane rating its supposed to have in a laboratory? It seems to me all that matters is what is directly measurable when the gas is actually pumped into your tank. Gentlemen, My question is twofold:
1.)Who makes these rules?
2.)Are they on crack?
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 14:09
onanysunday wrote:
i believe they are the same thing. 87 AKI equals 91 RON:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
So, for example..A manufacturer writes something like "recommended fuel is 87 (AKI), (91 RON)"
Which one to believe?
i believe they are the same thing. 87 AKI equals 91 RON:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 14:13
So when you fill up would you go with the 87 or the 91?
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 14:35
onanysunday wrote:
i'm in canada which uses the AKI octane measure.
87 is regular gas, 91 is premium gas, and 89 is a blend of the two.
my kz1000 owners manual says to use '87 octane or higher'. an old school mechanic suggested i use 89, so that's what i use.
(in canada sunoco also sells a 94 octane gas that's 10% ethanol.)
Post edited by: duncan, at: 2007/09/24 17:40
So when you fill up would you go with the 87 or the 91?
i'm in canada which uses the AKI octane measure.
87 is regular gas, 91 is premium gas, and 89 is a blend of the two.
my kz1000 owners manual says to use '87 octane or higher'. an old school mechanic suggested i use 89, so that's what i use.
(in canada sunoco also sells a 94 octane gas that's 10% ethanol.)
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 14:44
Ok, so you just average out the two numbers according to manufacturer specs? :huh:
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 19:43
I'm reasonably certain that the (R+M)/2 method is required in the US by Federal regulation.
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Re: Octane Confusion
24 Sep 2007 20:28
At the Ford ASSET program, they basically said in a stock engine, to run the lowest octane you can without getting spark knock. The higher Octane number refers to the fuel's increased RESISTANCE to combustion due to added detergents. Since detergents don't burn, the less you can get by with, the better power and economy you get. I personally run 87 (R+M/2 as stated on the pump) which is sold as regular, and have yet to have ANY mechanical problems EVER related to fuel quality.
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