Improved Crankcase Venting
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Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 17:48
Hi guys, looking for ideas on how to change crankcase venting on my KZ650, which is now an 810 with GPZ750 cams. I noticed a lot of oil mist getting pushed into the intake tract and possibly causing some of the carbon build up on the piston and exhaust valves. The pistons are fresh so it's not poor seal blowby, just high rpm pumping pushing oil mist where I don't want it. What have people done to change venting? Straight pipe into the atmosphere? Catch can then back to airbox? Has anyone installed a PCV valve? Is the vent in the case too small? How about adding a second vent on the valve cover?
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Re: Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 00:10Catch can would reduce the oil in the airbox and additional venting would likely reduce pressureHi guys, looking for ideas on how to change crankcase venting on my KZ650, which is now an 810 with GPZ750 cams. I noticed a lot of oil mist getting pushed into the intake tract and possibly causing some of the carbon build up on the piston and exhaust valves. The pistons are fresh so it's not poor seal blowby, just high rpm pumping pushing oil mist where I don't want it. What have people done to change venting? Straight pipe into the atmosphere? Catch can then back to airbox? Has anyone installed a PCV valve? Is the vent in the case too small? How about adding a second vent on the valve cover?
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Re: Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 01:13
You can start by simply adding a breather to the oil filler cap and go from there.
Earls used to make them for the 650 and 1000's etc if you don't want to modify your existing or make your own..
You should run the hose to either a catch tank or position the open end to a point higher than the top of the engine..
Earls used to make them for the 650 and 1000's etc if you don't want to modify your existing or make your own..
You should run the hose to either a catch tank or position the open end to a point higher than the top of the engine..
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Re: Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 08:19 - Yesterday 09:03
I have always run extra vents on my enlarged engines, no pcv just straight to atmosphre thru a small K&N type filter.
On my 831cc 650 engine I run a -6AN fitting on the cam cover in addition to the air box vent. You can enlarge the stock vent fitting outlet slightly. The cam cover vent runs a hose up under the top frame tube and terminates with a filter hidden next to the frame neck gussets.
I don't have great pics of the install. That engine was pulled and a 1197cc Z1 replaced it with a different vent system that has two lines terminating into a ABS pipe.
The Z1 is vented from a fitting bolted to the modified top breather cover and a fitting on the cam cover. Both vent lines terminate next to the steering tube behind the frame neck gussets.
I see your engine has a Zephyr top end and a air box. When using the stock air box the cam cover is the only other option unless you want to drill and tap the stock cover for another fitting then have it run to a small breather.
Just leave the air box setup as is and put a -6AN bulkhead fitting on the top of the cam cover like I did with my Z1 build. You don't need to build a ABS catch can like I did, just install a tiny filter on the end of the vent hose.
On my 831cc 650 engine I run a -6AN fitting on the cam cover in addition to the air box vent. You can enlarge the stock vent fitting outlet slightly. The cam cover vent runs a hose up under the top frame tube and terminates with a filter hidden next to the frame neck gussets.
I don't have great pics of the install. That engine was pulled and a 1197cc Z1 replaced it with a different vent system that has two lines terminating into a ABS pipe.
The Z1 is vented from a fitting bolted to the modified top breather cover and a fitting on the cam cover. Both vent lines terminate next to the steering tube behind the frame neck gussets.
I see your engine has a Zephyr top end and a air box. When using the stock air box the cam cover is the only other option unless you want to drill and tap the stock cover for another fitting then have it run to a small breather.
Just leave the air box setup as is and put a -6AN bulkhead fitting on the top of the cam cover like I did with my Z1 build. You don't need to build a ABS catch can like I did, just install a tiny filter on the end of the vent hose.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 10:56
Hey Injected, I notice in one of your pics you have the carb manifold vacuum fittings tied in pairs. Is that a carb balance thing?
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1974 Z1A
Yoshimura 987, 10.25:1
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Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
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Re: Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 11:59 - Yesterday 12:00
I've seen a member here post using this reed valve PCV. I don't know how much a performance difference it would make but it probably helps remove water vapor and other blowby gasses from the crank case.
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Re: Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 13:39I did not have any proper rubber caps at that time, so sorted it out later. It was a quick fix that works, but I don't like how it looks.Hey Injected, I notice in one of your pics you have the carb manifold vacuum fittings tied in pairs. Is that a carb balance thing?
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: Improved Crankcase Venting
Yesterday 14:02
Did it seem to have any effect on the sync of the carbs?
Scotty
1974 Z1A
Yoshimura 987, 10.25:1
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
1974 Z1A
Yoshimura 987, 10.25:1
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
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