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25 Sep 2024 11:32 #904605 by sf4t7
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Here's my clutch cable routing



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1974 Z1A
1015
welded Z1 crank
Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
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    25 Sep 2024 14:30 #904610 by JR
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    And another one. Kz750

     

    1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust
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    26 Sep 2024 09:32 - 26 Sep 2024 09:33 #904632 by willemZ900
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    Hi,  did you also check the push Rod?   
    On my Z1 i use this z650 lever, see pic, works great
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    26 Sep 2024 09:45 #904633 by willemZ900
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    On the other side of the push Rod i use this from Ape. I also drive for 40 years with heavy duty springs and its my second clutch cable. So your problem is maybe not only your clutch cable
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    26 Sep 2024 11:36 #904635 by KeylAmi!
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    What am i looking for with the pushrod?

    Is the helix style actuator compatible with the KZ700 sprocket cover?

    Current project:
    '84 KZ700

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    26 Sep 2024 12:21 #904640 by Nessism
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    What am i looking for with the pushrod?

    Is the helix style actuator compatible with the KZ700 sprocket cover?

    The three ball ramp version mechanism replaced the helix version.  Just my opinion, but I chose the three ball over the helix for my 750.

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    26 Sep 2024 13:06 #904642 by sf4t7
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    I fitted the ball bearing actuator and the APE pusher to my Z1 and they work great. They didn't necessarily make the lever pull any easier but the clutch engagement is smoother than before.


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    1974 Z1A
    1015
    welded Z1 crank
    Andrews 1X Cams
    Delkevic 4 into 1
    Superbike bars
    530 conversion
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    26 Sep 2024 13:13 #904643 by willemZ900
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    What am i looking for with the pushrod?


    Well it could be damaged or worn out at the top/end.

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    26 Sep 2024 17:23 - 26 Sep 2024 17:28 #904647 by Scirocco
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    Most of the (some are made of Aluminum) clutch push rods are worn out at the oil seal area.
    I made my own push rods out of high grad stainless steel.

     
     
     
     

    I read some where that under hard de-celleration (Drag Race) the rod ends can friction weld and shere of.....
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    26 Sep 2024 21:38 #904651 by SWest
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    Had that happen twice. Cracked two sprocket covers in a short time. I now have the 650 actuator as shown and the needle bearing pusher as shown. I have Barnett springs and an extra plate and it still is easier than the OEM worm drive. I hated it.
    I even added a 1/4" extension to the arm that helped but still broke cables. Had the easy pull style on my Honda but sometimes I'd hear that dreaded pop and no clutch at all. All better now. 
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    27 Sep 2024 14:31 - 27 Sep 2024 14:32 #904665 by JR
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    I was out and about this morning on my 750 and noted that I can pull in the clutch lever easily using just the first two fingers on the left hand.  No big deal.

    I keep thinking your issue will turn out to be something simple. Here's another photo I had in the archives and which I should have posted with the one above. Might be worth checking out as its easy enough to get things ass backwards

     

    1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust
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