Wrist pin to connecting rod fit

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25 Jun 2020 14:24 - 25 Jun 2020 14:26 #828989 by DoctoRot
Wrist pin to connecting rod fit was created by DoctoRot
According to the manual the wrist pin to connecting rod fit should be 0.003mm - 0.025mm (KZ750B)

this seems like a very wide range as 0.003mm (0.00012") is nearly a press fit. while 0.025mm (0.00098") is a floating fit. I am going to have the small end of some NOS connecting rods honed so that this tolerance is ideal with the DLC coated wrist pins I have as it is too small right now. What tolerance should I aim for to ensure good oil film? I have read that .0008" is ideal for a floating pin but that was for big V8.

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25 Jun 2020 15:46 - 25 Jun 2020 16:03 #828996 by Scirocco
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The optimal tolerance is depandent to the connecting rod Diameter and piston bore Diameter in driving temperature condition. Parts expant with Temperature rised. A 17 mm Piston rod should have 0,005 - 0,01 mm tolerance cold. Aluminum expant more than twice as steel when going hot and the tolerance goes near to Zero.
You will see a Brown, blue, purple coloring on the Piston pin surface as a sign of heat stress.
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25 Jun 2020 15:59 #828999 by DoctoRot
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Thanks for the reply. I'm referring to the connecting rod small end and the wrist pin not the piston.

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25 Jun 2020 16:04 - 25 Jun 2020 16:10 #829000 by Nessism
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Edit: I'm struggling with math today...

According to those specs the target clearance is between .00011-.0011"

Not sure what to suggest other than go off nominal, say .0007"
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25 Jun 2020 16:28 #829002 by Scirocco
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0.00011" = 0,002794 mm up to 0.0011" = 0,02794 mm tolerance min. and max. (not Service Limit)
nominal, say 0.0007" = 0,01778 mm so what´s wrong with the math?

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25 Jun 2020 16:59 #829007 by DoctoRot
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Should aim to be in the middle of the piston to rod range then? (.025-.003)/2+.003= .014mm (.00055")

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25 Jun 2020 18:45 #829014 by Nebr_Rex
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DoctoRot wrote: I have read that .0008" is ideal for a floating pin but that was for big V8.

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