Carb holder gasket/sealant to cylinder head?

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21 Mar 2019 11:37 #800781 by jayrodoh
Putting my 750 back together for the season and have tracked down a leak between the carb holders and cylinder head while tuning. I know it's best to replace but mine are unobtainium part number 16065-1046. Took me a year to find NOS intake ducts but no luck on these whatsoever. Any suggestions on what I can use to seal these up to the cylinder head? I removed them without an issue when I redid the head and they are in good shape but hardened on the head side therefore causing them to leak when installed and torqued dry. I searched but got varying answers on it.

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21 Mar 2019 12:05 #800784 by Patton
Three bond reportedly holds up longer than silicone sealant.

Hopefully someone else might know of something superior to Three Bond for this particular application.

Good Fortune! :)

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21 Mar 2019 12:16 #800787 by jayrodoh
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Patton wrote: Three bond reportedly holds up longer than silicone sealant.

Hopefully someone else might know of something superior to Three Bond for this particular application.

Good Fortune! :)


I was thinking about that. This looks promising as well but can't find any experience for the application :

www.permatex.com/products/gasketing/gask...sing-flange-sealant/

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21 Mar 2019 12:44 #800789 by hardrockminer
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I use a thin amount of Permatex.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.

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21 Mar 2019 13:10 #800791 by SWest
I've used :ohmy: Permatex with good results. I never use it ANYWHERE else. :angry:
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21 Mar 2019 13:37 - 21 Mar 2019 13:38 #800792 by z1kzonly
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That 750 looks like an H2 2 stroke?? Yes, No?
Whatever. If they are that red color fibered? Or any? I always would fine sand them with a wet sandpaper 400-600 grit. Smooth them out even.
Then "HYLOMAR" Blue Hylomar! The Only! Best Stuff ever! Not the original. But as good! Comes in aerosol or tube form. Never hardens, stays pliable. Google it!
The only stuff that would seal "ELMER TRETT's top fuel Kawasaki engine's head! When we raced in the 80's & 90's. Fastest bike in the world at the time!
It's a little pricey, but worth it. HYLOMAR amazon sells it the cheapest.
I will debate anyone on this product!

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Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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21 Mar 2019 13:41 #800793 by jayrodoh
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z1kzonly wrote: That 750 looks like an H2 2 stroke?? Yes, No?


Nope, but I'd love to have one.

Pics below, as you can see the carb end is in good shape and pliable. Back side is a little flat and hard, hoping I can get by with a little bead of something and put these back to use.


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21 Mar 2019 14:11 - 21 Mar 2019 14:13 #800794 by 650ed

z1kzonly wrote: ..................... "HYLOMAR" Blue Hylomar! The Only! Best Stuff ever! Not the original. But as good! Comes in aerosol or tube form. Never hardens, stays pliable............


It looks like good stuff. Their website says it never sets. That's good, but does it become firm enough that it won't be drawn by the intake vacuum through the carb holder cracks into the engine? Thanks, Ed

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21 Mar 2019 14:17 - 21 Mar 2019 14:21 #800795 by Scirocco
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z1kzonly is right, Blue Hylomar is the best. Your rubber boots have enough rubber thickness for a resurface.
You can renew/flatten the rubber boot surface with a light wet sanding on a glass plate. Use 400 - 600 grit.
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21 Mar 2019 14:57 #800796 by Nessism
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The earlier 750 twin carb boots are available from cruzin image. Will they work on the later bikes?

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21 Mar 2019 16:33 #800797 by jayrodoh
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Scirocco wrote: Your rubber boots have enough rubber thickness for a resurface.
You can renew/flatten the rubber boot surface with a light wet sanding on a glass plate. Use 400 - 600 grit.


I was curious about sanding them a bit but was a little concerned with the scarcity of them.

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21 Mar 2019 16:37 #800798 by jayrodoh
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Nessism wrote: The earlier 750 twin carb boots are available from cruzin image. Will they work on the later bikes?

Different size bores, the early used BS38 and the later BS34.

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