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01 Aug 2017 12:39 #768127
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Hi Guys,
I'm new to the forum but need some quick advice. We race a vintage 1974 Z1 sidecar and go racing next week.
I've lost the 600A1200 ball bearing that is in between the clutch rod end and the clutch actuator.
Tried a few ball bearings that I have and the size isn't right .. also they are not available now in Canada.
Can anyone tell me what the diameter is of this steel ball ? The Kawasaki description says Ball Steel 3/8 .. but that can't be the size in inches.
Sizes in metric mm would be appreciated as that's what we use up here.
Then I may be able to find something at a supplier up here.
Thanks in advance.
Mick
I'm new to the forum but need some quick advice. We race a vintage 1974 Z1 sidecar and go racing next week.
I've lost the 600A1200 ball bearing that is in between the clutch rod end and the clutch actuator.
Tried a few ball bearings that I have and the size isn't right .. also they are not available now in Canada.
Can anyone tell me what the diameter is of this steel ball ? The Kawasaki description says Ball Steel 3/8 .. but that can't be the size in inches.
Sizes in metric mm would be appreciated as that's what we use up here.
Then I may be able to find something at a supplier up here.
Thanks in advance.
Mick
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01 Aug 2017 14:12 #768130
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01 Aug 2017 15:29 #768135
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01 Aug 2017 15:54 - 01 Aug 2017 16:03 #768136
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1 inch = 25,4 mm
1/8 inch = 25,4 / 8 = 3,175 mm
3/8 = 3,175 mm * 3 = 9,525 mm
Can you upload some pictures of the vintage 1974 Z1 sidecar
1/8 inch = 25,4 / 8 = 3,175 mm
3/8 = 3,175 mm * 3 = 9,525 mm
Can you upload some pictures of the vintage 1974 Z1 sidecar
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02 Aug 2017 18:59 #768194
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Scirocco,
The cavity that the bearing drops into looks to be about 6mm max in diameter .. why did you multiply the 3.175 X 3 ?
That would appear to be too big to drop down the sleeve.
Advice appreciated.
Hope fully the sidecar picture will attach properly.
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Scirocco,
The cavity that the bearing drops into looks to be about 6mm max in diameter .. why did you multiply the 3.175 X 3 ?
That would appear to be too big to drop down the sleeve.
Advice appreciated.
Hope fully the sidecar picture will attach properly.
Cheers
Mick
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02 Aug 2017 19:03 #768195
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03 Aug 2017 02:32 - 03 Aug 2017 02:38 #768207
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The 3/8 steel ball must be insert form the clutch side into the shaft.
Flexing of the adjustment cover is a sign of a blockage. in the clutch.
Flexing of the adjustment cover is a sign of a blockage. in the clutch.
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03 Aug 2017 07:52 #768232
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When I use the clutch leave I can see this adjustment cover flexing and pushing out .. is this normal ? It's almost as if the adjuster screw is too far out and pressing against the steel cover.
Steel? :huh: Both the sprocket cover and the access cover plate are aluminum.
Should not see any movement of the sprocket cover when squeezing the handlebar clutch lever. Unless the cover screws are loose or stripped, or unless the cover is cracked or otherwise damaged.
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Steel? :huh: Both the sprocket cover and the access cover plate are aluminum.
Should not see any movement of the sprocket cover when squeezing the handlebar clutch lever. Unless the cover screws are loose or stripped, or unless the cover is cracked or otherwise damaged.
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03 Aug 2017 08:10 - 03 Aug 2017 08:47 #768235
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As I recall, the steel ball inserts into the empty push-rod passageway before the push-rod is inserted into the passageway, all from underneath the sprocket cover (on the port side of the bike where the adjusted mechanism is located). It's unnecessary to remove the clutch cover (on the starboard side of the bike) or to perform any clutch disassembly.
A fairly common mistake after removing the sprocket cover and push-rod is inadvertently allowing the steel ball to roll out of the push-rod passageway without noticing it's escape to parts unknown. :pinch:
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A fairly common mistake after removing the sprocket cover and push-rod is inadvertently allowing the steel ball to roll out of the push-rod passageway without noticing it's escape to parts unknown. :pinch:
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03 Aug 2017 08:26 #768238
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The ball goes in from the right side.
Steve
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03 Aug 2017 09:04 #768242
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Guys,
Thanks for all of the great info.
I was told that the left hand side of the engine which has the clutch rod actuator is supposed to have a steel ball but it looks like that was incorrect. I haven't removed the right hand engine cover or clutch basket .. which is obviously where the steel ball is.
I'll remove the additional steel ball that I fitted to the left hand side and see how I do.
Then I should be off to the races literally.
Thanks again.
Mick
Thanks for all of the great info.
I was told that the left hand side of the engine which has the clutch rod actuator is supposed to have a steel ball but it looks like that was incorrect. I haven't removed the right hand engine cover or clutch basket .. which is obviously where the steel ball is.
I'll remove the additional steel ball that I fitted to the left hand side and see how I do.
Then I should be off to the races literally.
Thanks again.
Mick
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03 Aug 2017 10:03 #768249
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Seems to me that Kawasaki's exploded diagram ought to look like this.
Many of the folks that have inadvertently lost the ball bearing had removed the sprocket cover and pulled out the push-rod and didn't notice when the ball-bearing fell out the same hole the push-rod came out of.
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Many of the folks that have inadvertently lost the ball bearing had removed the sprocket cover and pulled out the push-rod and didn't notice when the ball-bearing fell out the same hole the push-rod came out of.
Good Fortune!
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