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Exhaust Split Collar / Keeper Spacing
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20 Sep 2016 10:01 #742981
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1977 KZ650 (1982 KZ750-4 Engine)
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Exhaust Split Collar / Keeper Spacing was created by FrankenKZ650
Hello,
Did some searching and did not see any related topics - I'm wondering if the split keeper spacing / position matters when installing an exhaust / header? On my kz1000, i noticed the "split keeper" spacing is not equal on all the pipes. My #3 cylinder has the keeper nearly touching on one side, with a larger gap on the other. I'm talking about the pieces that actually seat the pipe to the head, not the circular "clamp" that holds it all together. Am I over-thinking this?
Thanks!
Dustin
Did some searching and did not see any related topics - I'm wondering if the split keeper spacing / position matters when installing an exhaust / header? On my kz1000, i noticed the "split keeper" spacing is not equal on all the pipes. My #3 cylinder has the keeper nearly touching on one side, with a larger gap on the other. I'm talking about the pieces that actually seat the pipe to the head, not the circular "clamp" that holds it all together. Am I over-thinking this?
Thanks!
Dustin
1977 KZ650 (1982 KZ750-4 Engine)
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20 Sep 2016 10:17 - 20 Sep 2016 10:41 #742983
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As long as the exhaust system is mounted securely & there are no leaks, you'll be fine.
I try to install the half-moon exhaust collars evenly & with the gaps between the mounting studs.
I try to install the half-moon exhaust collars evenly & with the gaps between the mounting studs.
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20 Sep 2016 17:20 #743029
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I've heard some folks use scotch tape to keep the split collars and exhaust gaskets in place while installing them, taped to the head pipes. The tape burns after start up.
I've never done this, as I don't want to clean off burnt tape from my pipes. But I have heard of it many times....
I've never done this, as I don't want to clean off burnt tape from my pipes. But I have heard of it many times....
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20 Sep 2016 17:25 #743031
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Masking tape.
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20 Sep 2016 22:56 #743053
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And the tape, if install d right, never touches the pipes so I don't understand the comment about keeping it off the pipes
Bruce
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Replied by missionkz on topic Exhaust Split Collar / Keeper Spacing
Correct.swest wrote: Masking tape.
Steve
And the tape, if install d right, never touches the pipes so I don't understand the comment about keeping it off the pipes
Bruce
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21 Sep 2016 06:23 #743068
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Steve's right. Masking tape makes it so easy.
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21 Sep 2016 06:26 #743070
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Replied by FrankenKZ650 on topic Exhaust Split Collar / Keeper Spacing
Thanks, Martin.
I know the tricks to install them, but some of my keepers shifted before I tightened the nuts.
I have a spare set of coppers, so I might give it a go with better rubber bands this time around.
Thanks for the replies!
I know the tricks to install them, but some of my keepers shifted before I tightened the nuts.
I have a spare set of coppers, so I might give it a go with better rubber bands this time around.
Thanks for the replies!
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21 Sep 2016 16:09 #743129
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The ones I had to clean with wire wheel had burnt tape, several layers of tape, on the split collars, the clamping collars, head pipes, and the pipe end flanges.
I've never had to use tape to do this......I just know lots of people do, and I've seen some results that I didn't appreciate very much....same goes for using RTV in place of gaskets. I don't like cleaning up after someone else's RTV "party" either....
2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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missionkz wrote:
Correct.swest wrote: Masking tape.
Steve
And the tape, if install d right, never touches the pipes so I don't understand the comment about keeping it off the pipes
The ones I had to clean with wire wheel had burnt tape, several layers of tape, on the split collars, the clamping collars, head pipes, and the pipe end flanges.
I've never had to use tape to do this......I just know lots of people do, and I've seen some results that I didn't appreciate very much....same goes for using RTV in place of gaskets. I don't like cleaning up after someone else's RTV "party" either....
2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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21 Sep 2016 16:22 #743133
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Too much is just too much. :whistle:
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