Engine debris-What is it?

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17 Jul 2006 11:31 #62651 by CTSZ1
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Ever had one of those eureka! moments. After all of my worrying about the aluminum pieces in the oil pan and where they are coming from, I found a chunk about half the size of my little fingernail on the case wall in the crank area. Where did that come from? Funny thing the chunk had two machined sides. Then I remembered that when I bought this motor (over a year ago) I had to replace the clutch because......two of the fiber (fiber and aluminum) disks were broken. Eureka, that's where the excess of aluminum was coming from! So I've got a combo of the chain hitting the head and that clutch disk coming apart.

I'm feeling better all the time.

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17 Jul 2006 11:42 #62654 by Pterosaur
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Good job on finding the source - sounds like you're well on your way to having a healthy motor again...

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17 Jul 2006 12:20 #62668 by wiredgeorge
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CTSZ1... Haven't been paying much attention to this thread but looked through it quickly. If the engine were mine, I would find a new set of cam bearings. Did the cam shafts get nicked up any? If so, I would replace those as well. I personally would tend to want to yank the engine and pull off the bottom case and flush it good. While in there I personally would toss the cam chain and put in a new one (unless your old one as new). The cam chain bits are expensive but I would use the best I could find/afford. One of the bits I see REGULAR damage to is the front/block rubber bumper. This is the deal that is held in the block with a phillips head screw. If you remove it and flex it, this piece is almost invariably cracked (can't see the crack till it is flexed). Once it starts cracking, it just seems to crumble away and I have seen some engines where NONE of it other than the two little ears it hangs from still in place. If you are trying to get the engine together and don't want to pull it, it will probably be OK as junk tends to float to the bottom of the pan but those cam bearings keep getting into my head... the crank bearings would be something I would be curious about...

Hope to see you at mid-Ohio... What is your human name? CTSZ1 probably won't work in a conversation bwhahaha

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18 Jul 2006 06:23 #62849 by CTSZ1
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wiredgeorge, Bearings are being replaced, cam shaft journals look fine no nicks or any visible wear. I'm replacing the cam chain, rollers and the guide. Also re-ringing it and replacing the valve seals.

Name is David. I've purchased some carb parts from you in the past. Hope to see you at VMD, I'll be on ole yella, hopefully.

thanks

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27 Jul 2006 16:56 #65274 by CTSZ1
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Got her back together. new cam chain, rollers, cam bearings, set of rings and valve stem seals and of course gaskets. Put 200 hundred miles on her today and she ran like a champ. I think the carbs need to be re-synched but everything else seems great. Hope to see you all at VMD.

Thanks for the help.

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27 Jul 2006 17:16 #65279 by Pterosaur
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CTSZ1 wrote:

Got her back together. ... Put 200 hundred miles on her today and she ran like a champ. I think the carbs need to be re-synched but everything else seems great. Hope to see you all at VMD.


Glad to hear the good news - enjoy her... ;)

Thanks for the help.


No problem. B)

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27 Jul 2006 18:11 #65293 by KawasakiBob
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I had nightmares about that thing on the wing of the plane.....

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27 Jul 2006 21:19 #65366 by CoreyClough
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I dropped my oil pan before loading the 615 kit in it and this is what I found:



#3 Rod is the culprit. Now I'm also replacing the oil pump, and shortblock. 44,000 miles on a 21 year old engine. That screen worked wonders.

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27 Jul 2006 21:44 #65371 by Pterosaur
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Yow. I'd imagine that rod looks like a cross-cut saw.

No odd noises? I'd have thought there would be.

Amazing machines...

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