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02 Feb 2016 23:19 #709132 by shamal
Where the hell is the mark was created by shamal
On this rotor , i thought it can be 180° off. I cant find any mark on the lobe :(

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02 Feb 2016 23:45 - 02 Feb 2016 23:47 #709133 by Bozo
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shamal wrote: On this rotor , i thought it can be 180° off. I cant find any mark on the lobe :(


The part you are showing is keyed when it goes on the crankshaft - it cannot be 180 degrees out, you should see the T 1-4 mark point to the marker on the timing cover which is screwed to the engine when piston one / four are in the top position.

I suspect you haven't fitted the cover with the timing mark. Let me know if you have a problem understanding this, I can take a photo if required.

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03 Feb 2016 00:04 #709134 by shamal
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Im referring about this

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03 Feb 2016 00:05 #709135 by shamal
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03 Feb 2016 02:09 - 03 Feb 2016 02:11 #709138 by rrsmsw9999
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There should be a "TEC" and number "1016"mark on it. The cam lob should point that way.

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03 Feb 2016 02:24 #709141 by Bozo
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shamal wrote: Im referring about this


My bad, my suggestion is to find out which pickup is triggered (by the cam on the part in picture) i.e when on F 1-4 the correct pickup for that coil to plugs 1-4 should be triggered (the cam should point to the correct pickup).
Sorry this is hard to describe.

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03 Feb 2016 02:34 - 03 Feb 2016 02:41 #709144 by Nessism
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The base is keyed to the crank but it IS possible to install the rotor 180 degrees out of phase. I know because I did it (somehow). Hopefully someone will confirm this but I think that with the 1-4 T mark pointing up, the rotor points to the left.
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03 Feb 2016 02:53 #709146 by shamal
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The bike will be able to run with it 180 degrees off?

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03 Feb 2016 04:11 #709155 by TexasKZ
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03 Feb 2016 04:14 - 03 Feb 2016 04:14 #709156 by Patton
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Nessism wrote: . . . with the 1-4 T mark pointing up, the rotor points to the left.


That's correct. :cheer:

When the pointed end of the rotor passes by the left-hand (9 o'clock) pickup module, a signal is sent to the ignition coil that fires outside cylinders 1 and 4.

When the pointed end of the rotor passes by the right-hand (3 o'clock) pickup module, a signal is sent to the ignition coil that fires inside cylinders 2 and 3.

Good Fortune! :)

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03 Feb 2016 04:15 - 03 Feb 2016 04:17 #709157 by rrsmsw9999
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The lobe of the cam needs to point to the TEC mark. I have done the same 180 and it won't run, probably not your problem as it runs. BTW this is clearly indicated in the Kawasaki FSM. I am not sure I understand your question. At TDC on piston 1 the tming mark should align with the case pin at 1/4. R

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03 Feb 2016 06:54 #709179 by z1kzonly
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shamal wrote: On this rotor , i thought it can be 180° off. I cant find any mark on the lobe :(


Seeing your working on it, TRY it both ways. process of elimination. And No it won't fire 180 off.

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