Timing with Dyna S ds2-2 and 1013 advancer

1980 KZ750 E1
Dyna S DS2-2

I have installed my dyna s ds2-2 after my points gave out, and while adjusting the timing on the new ignition system, the instructions call for lining up the 1-4 tick marks and the 2-3 tick marks on the advancer.
The problem is, on my 1013 advancer:
one side has a T mark, an F mark and two marks for the 1-4
the other side has just a T mark, and no other marks for the 2-3

Does anyone know how I can do the ignition timing statically without these other tick marks?
It seems the 1013 advancer is the stock part for the 1980 kz750E

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Steve

here ya go

kawasakisubaru wrote: 1980 KZ750 E1
Dyna S DS2-2

I have installed my dyna s ds2-2 after my points gave out, and while adjusting the timing on the new ignition system, the instructions call for lining up the 1-4 tick marks and the 2-3 tick marks on the advancer.
The problem is, on my 1013 advancer:
one side has a T mark, an F mark and two marks for the 1-4
the other side has just a T mark, and no other marks for the 2-3

Does anyone know how I can do the ignition timing statically without these other tick marks?
It seems the 1013 advancer is the stock part for the 1980 kz750E

See:

www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/599036-kz...ight?start=40#690914

With the Dyna S you need to know where to set 2&3. In the instructions, timing is done with a light at full advance. Set 1&4, run it and adjust 2&3 with the light.

The pick-up modules usually come already pre-set at 180° orientation between them.
Hence, when the 1/4 F mark aligns, the 2/3 F mark should self-align.

For ultra-fine tuning -- which usually isn't needed -- each pick-up module may be individually adjusted within a narrow range.
To do this on 2/3 without an F mark, could carefully inscribe an F mark the exact same distance from the T mark as is provided on the 1/4 side of the advancer.

If the pick-up modules are still in their original positions, would not alter their individual settings, and simply set the timing at idle by aligning the 1/4 F mark with the case mark. Would expect this to be sufficient in the majority of new Dyna-S installations.

If the dual marks on the advancer fail to align at 4000 rpm, the timing may be adjusted slightly forward or backward to attain the advanced timing position per the installation instructions provided from Dyna-S.

Good Fortune!

kawasakisubaru wrote: 1980 KZ750 E1 . . . The problem is, on my 1013 advancer:
one side has a T mark, an F mark and two marks for the 1-4
the other side has just a T mark, and no other marks for the 2-3 . . . .

Am thinking that ignition timing on the the bike at hand was permanently set at the factory and not intended for further adjustment. And guessing that the stock timing plate is in a fixed position without any slots allowing adjustments in either direction. Such arrangement allows for "checking" the timing, but not for "adjusting" the timing. Which may explain the absence of marks other than the T mark on the 2/3 side of the advancer.

Good Fortune!

You're right. The Dyna comes with it's own plate. If 1&4 is set properly 2&3 should be good too. I had to adjust 2&3 slightly with that dinky Allen wrench supplied with the kit. :dry:
Steve

Patton wrote:

The pick-up modules usually come already pre-set at 180° orientation between them.
Hence, when the 1/4 F mark aligns, the 2/3 F mark should self-align.

For ultra-fine tuning -- which usually isn't needed -- each pick-up module may be individually adjusted within a narrow range.
To do this on 2/3 without an F mark, could carefully inscribe an F mark the exact same distance from the T mark as is provided on the 1/4 side of the advancer.

If the pick-up modules are still in their original positions, would not alter their individual settings, and simply set the timing at idle by aligning the 1/4 F mark with the case mark. Would expect this to be sufficient in the majority of new Dyna-S installations.

If the dual marks on the advancer fail to align at 4000 rpm, the timing may be adjusted slightly forward or backward to attain the advanced timing position per the installation instructions provided from Dyna-S.

Good Fortune!

Like Patten says maybe measure and put a mark exactly the same distance for the 2/3 side and be sure to check it 1/4 at full advance like he says I had to at idle have it set maybe a line to the right on the F mark to get it in between the advance marks....... exactly on the F mark and it was not advancing quite enough at 4,000......... mine were set from the factory right on the money between the 2 pairs but it might be good to double check anyway.

I have installed a bunch of these Dyns S' and have never found one to be pre-set. I always have to set each module individually. I measure the distance from the T and F marks for 1-4 then mark that same distance for the 2-3. I have checked my results using a cam degree wheel and it's usually spot on.